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If you focus only on cons, while forsaking pro's, you are doing a disservice. Knowing what you think is good is just as important as what you think is bad. Thus, this comes across as just one big complaint. Further, you do not explain how you would go about fixing all of these things you're complaining about, which makes your post lack usefulness. If you really want to help, rewrite your post to include ideas on how Bungie could improve these deficiencies, as well as things you like about the game.
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  • I did what I did very intentionally, and with good reason, I think. The reasons I did not include ideas is twofold: they are less easy to agree with and, generally, game devs don't care. For the latter, they can say they listen to singular good ideas all they want, but unless they read an idea that they just really like, they give 0 s***s. That a game dev actually listens is a rare occurrence, despite anything they say to the contrary. Of course, this is not the devs' fault, it is because they may only pursue what is lucrative. For the former, think about how many different ideas people have. Then think about how many people desire some form of change. Then think about how often game devs listen. You see, if a great many people desire change, then the game devs will desire to make change, and that means that if they desire change, they will be looking to either think up that change or find someone with an idea. This makes people more receptive to ambient ideas, especially if multiple people are saying the same thing. In essence, I am attempting to affect a change not by offering my own ideas, but by creating a situation where the devs can be shown that a large number of people desire change. In the end, it comes down to Bungie understanding that we want these changes so badly that they desire to put resources into creating this change, because no matter how good an idea is, it will be ignored unless it is seen as lucrative. And you are right, it is a disservice, but I must keep what I include down to a minimum. I made two easily agreeable points. That's all. And look at the response. The numbers don't lie.

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  • The problem with leaving the changes up to the imagination of the devs is that you often won't like the changes they make. You're right, though. This thread had grown. Unfortunately that means DeeJ had probably read it, and come away with very little of use because it's just one big complaint. Further, most of the responses were also not helpful. So what you have is a big thread of complaints with few ideas on what the community would like to see implemented. Regardless of what you think, based on the changes they have already made, they are (at least on some level) listening.

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  • Edited by FreakingElite09: 11/29/2014 6:10:35 PM
    Since you suggested it, I got an idea for how to improve their deficiencies . . . do what they made everyone THINK they were going to do . . . problem solved. Do I still play? Yep. Do I find enjoyment? Yep. Do I blame others for being pissed? Not in the least. Is the game epic? No. Is it full of gimmicks to keep people playing because it's not actually the epic, content-full game they made it seem like it'd be? Oh yea. Or are they using the excuse that they want to gradually make it epic many years and monies later? HECK YEA! Capitalism baby!! PhotoS999 spent $60 on the game, it's his right to point out where Bungie fell short for him (and comrades) and to rate that was being more important than where they got it right. That's part of critiquing. If a game's good can't overcome its bad, then the customer is allowed to rally a base if he or she chooses. The customer is not under any obligation to be grateful to the developer as if did him some great favor just putting the product out there. That's irrational. Plus, Bungie (who answers to Activision in the end) is only going to listen to what THEY want to listen to or what they're ALLOWED to listen to,, so why defend them? Their feelings aren't hurt. It was a huge commercial success . . . and that means they'll be doing it again sometime . . . with your support . . .

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  • You missed the point... somehow entirely. I'm not defending Bungie in any way. The op came across as someone who cares about the game and wants it to be better. Rather than just be another recycled, useless whiny post, he or she could have been productive with his or her criticism. If you'd rather beat the drums for another unoriginal complaint, go for it. Of course no one is under any obligation to listen to me, but then I guess by your admission I have just as much right to post as I please.

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