They’ve been busted for nearly the entirety of the franchise, but they will always get a pass from the community for some reason.

Not even 100 hours overall in crucible and making balancing requests posts🤣 I love this forum.

[quote]Dear Bungie Team, I want to give direct feedback about the current state of hand cannons in Crucible. Hand cannons have become one of the biggest problems in PvP because they seem to control the entire balance direction of the sandbox. Every time another weapon type starts to feel strong, useful, or competitive, it eventually gets adjusted, limited, or nerfed. Meanwhile, hand cannons continue to sit at the center of Crucible as if the whole mode is being balanced around them. That has made PvP feel stale, frustrating, and almost unplayable. Crucible should support variety. Players should be able to use auto rifles, pulse rifles, scouts, sidearms, SMGs, bows, and other weapon types without feeling like they are constantly being pushed back into the same hand cannon meta. When one weapon family keeps defining what is acceptable in PvP, the sandbox stops feeling competitive and starts feeling forced. Even if the game is winding down or development support is being reduced, I strongly believe hand cannons need one final across-the-board nerf before Bungie moves on. They have had too much control over Crucible balance for too long. Before the game is left in its final state, PvP deserves a healthier sandbox where one weapon type does not continue to dominate the experience. Hand cannons should still exist and still be usable, but they should not be the weapon class that everything else is balanced around. Range, aim assist, flinch resistance, forgiveness, and damage consistency all need to be reviewed. The goal should not be to destroy the weapon type, but to stop it from choking out the rest of Crucible. Please take a serious look at giving hand cannons a full PvP balance pass before leaving the sandbox behind. Crucible needs weapon diversity, not another year of everything else being nerfed while hand cannons stay protected. [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been updated with tags that are more appropriate. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic, for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler][/quote] All you need is a pulse with armor piercing, zen and headseeker. I’m melting with autumn wind with 175 weapons damage at a distance from hc. Definitely dying to jade rabbit though

With all due respect, I don't think handcannons are the issue, in a pulse meta you would have struggled as well. Continously bottom fragging in silver tier comp isnt a handcannon issue. You can't tell me you lost everything due to handcannons