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1/4/2026 1:22:48 AM
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Renegades has wrecked PvP
I've been away for several months and I'm finding my feet again in PvP. Yet time and time I encounter an issue that seems to be a pseudo Pay To Win. The new weapons like the Martlet and the Heat Weapons are incredibly difficult to compete against. Between the cracked out stats, frame and fire rate of Martlet to the weirdly accurate Heat Weapons I cycle through so many of my own trying to find something that works.
What I've concluded is that this is on purpose. These weapons are designed to be Over-the-top and nigh impossible to win against, unless you have your own. In essence if you don't buy the new DLC you will suffer and won't be able to be successful.
I hope someone at Bungie reads this. It's a long shot I know. But you have to understand that this is not Ok. This is not how you should be advertising your latest content.
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Edited by Janitor Joe: 1/6/2026 5:18:18 AMI run a shotgun from season of the Chosen and it’s hard for people to beat. Run a decent primary and it’s lights out almost every game. Yeah I’m running new weapons sometimes now, but it’s near impossible to take off my Fractethyst with Rifled, Light mag, quick draw and opening shot. And I run T5 sets I bought from Zavala
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You misspelled all of this. here you go... "Bungie wrecked PVP"
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Nah, pvp has been a joke for years. Realistically it shít what was left of the bed with the introduction of prismatic.
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2 RepliesPvP has been buns for a long time now lol. They took almost anyone at the studio who cared about PvP development and put them on marathon. PvP in Destiny is still the most played part of the game even now. Really needs more investment.
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1 ReplyIf I were to go on this forum, which some would declare "THE MAJORITY," PvP has been wrecked for some time. Kind of weird how people keep at it though, right?
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21 RepliesHand cannon, shotgun, snipers. Has been and still is incredibly over powered in pvp. Just because you can now use a Pulse rifle. That doesn't mean that there is a massive issue that is going to kill pvp.
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2 RepliesPvP has been bad for a while.
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6 RepliesYou havent played for several months, THATS why youre getting beat. The weapons arent the issue, you're just losing fights
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Edited by fried_chicken: 1/5/2026 12:10:24 AMIt was wrecked a while ago but still can be fun with the right maps, right playstyles, and make sure to turn off your brain for sanity sake… Reality is gun skills and movement is now overshadowed by weapon type, abilities, and the incredible ways you can now die in the crucible, so anyone now can get kills…whats up with scatter grenades?….and why now when i hit 4 headshots to a super does the guardian still not die? Oh well, turn brain off and continue…
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Bungie "overturning" something from a new expansion and leaving it broken for several months until seasonal sales have fallen off? Never.... Prismatic Behemoth Titan Shatter dive Void 2.0 One Eyed Mask Wormhusk ...
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Uh.... Maybe you should get some of those weapons then, since you're saying they're THE defining reason you're losing.
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1 ReplyIf you don’t understand why this is then do yourself a favor, don’t try to start a business.
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It’s called marketing and business strategy. Don’t ever think for one little second that they care about your or anyone else’s cause or feelings.
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2 RepliesI bought Renegades and I partially agree with you.. but its not specific to Renegades... and I am not even convinced its on purpose. There are just weapons that make it through that are cracked (imo its not necessarily advertising its just lack of attention to detail/testing).. its better than usual right now actually... but there is one I won't mention that I see tearing it up in Control when its in there. (get the heat weapons out of your head... dont worry about the sound you immediately hear... just find your weapon that works) PVP is supposed to have nearly balanced weapons... you have slight variances by buff/nerf per season to keep it interesting but overall certain ranges and types of styles should work for a variety of weapons. So despite having Renegades and earned a bunch of weapons including Dungeon.. I like/need to play with a variety of weapons to keep it interesting. ...so if you made it this far I can let you know what I have tested that works from the old group of weapons but I'd like to hear what you have tried and whats your style?
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5 RepliesEdited by Salty-47: 1/4/2026 1:43:42 AMYou left and came back to pvp? Right there is your first issue. Pvp has never been the focus of this game and never will be. Now for the weapons. None of them are game breakingly overpowered. There are plenty of weapons that can and do beat them with no issue.
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More like Bu8ngie continues to wreck pvp I remember when they said that they want to make it about the weapons in pvp and not the abilities lol yup
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the only gun that is a lot better compared to the normal version is the dungeon pulse
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"Renegade" Go back to witchqueen when they started with the whole super tiers/no aerial accuracy/no special ammo / boring abilities spam only Thats where the pvp became boring, lame and honestly just a frustrating unsatisfying experience.
