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12/17/2025 6:06:11 AM
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I'm pretty done with champions/champ mods.

So, Title pretty much. I'm really at a point of where champions and champion mods more so make me give up playing than encourage me to play more.. I really dislike going to try and do an activity, having to stop and go "Oh, which champions..?" then sit here going "Right, Gotta change every gun on my load out and find ones that work that DON'T feel utterly terrible.." It feels horribly limiting when we're already at a now limited base because of the new "Tier" system has reduced the loot pool of what can be the most usable for a build. Unstop only on Bows for example.. if you go into something high difficulty with unstop champs, you either need to figure out a different way to deal with them, or kick yourself in the nuts by taking a bow.. which feels awful against tough enemies. I've never been a particularly big fan of the champions idea but in this current year of D2 they really make the game more of a drag than anything. At the least start making it so instead of just "Unstoppable bow." the mods will be like "Unstoppable Bow, Pulse rifle and Scout rifle." then "Antibarrier Fusion rifle, Auto rifle and Trace Rifle." "Overload Machinegun, Shotgun and Sniper rifle." etc etc. At least give us options rather than just seemingly being happy with slapping a tight limit on weapons we can use for things. It ain't fun, tbh.

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  • I like champions, but they really need to bring back that sound effect we used to hear in grandmasters whenever you killed a champion or other powerful combatant. Something about that sound and the points awarded was instant gratification.

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    • I completely agree, they have lost sight of a lot of things in this game. This is one of them, it should not be so limited...

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    • I don’t mind champions in theory. But the artifact mods for them this season are absolute garbage.

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      • That's nothing. I'm on a new account, now 400. I don't even have any bows that work. I found one at zavala & it doesn't proc unstop, apparently older guns no longer work with artefact mods so I can't stun them. There's literally no bows available that even work.

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        • Hundred percent agree. I like bows, but they're pretty useless in Ultimate Solo. Especially against a tanky unstoppable where there are a gazillion other enemies around. They should, as you say, give us a choice of weapons per champion type. However, I think we're shouting into the void...this is their official app, yet I don't think any members of the Bungie team read anything on it.

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          • The biggest trick the Devil ever pulled was “Anti-Barrier Handcannon”.

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            • Just remove galvanized mod, easy win :)

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              • Champions were dumb in inception because bungie couldn't be bothered to make new A.I coding for enemies you can only use certain weapons then later years later abilities otherwise this reskinned enemy will charge at you and melt you into oblivion and 99% of the time have locked load out so say you needed to change on the fly tough.

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              • Champions were dumb in inception because bungie couldn't be bothered to make new A.I coding for enemies you can only use certain weapons then later years later abilities otherwise this reskinned enemy will charge at you and melt you into oblivion and 99% of the time have locked load out so say you needed to change on the fly tough.

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              • Champions are -blam!- ever since bungo introducedthem in Shadowkeep. I hate them and they are boring as -blam!-. They add nothing gameplay wise.

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              • Edited by GradeMyGuardianTTV: 12/17/2025 3:25:45 PM
                [quote]At least give us options rather than just seemingly being happy with slapping a tight limit on weapons we can use for things. It ain't fun, tbh.[/quote] Generally when this happens, the best thing to do is to utilize Exotics with intrinsic stuns. Yes it limits variety, but it also reduces frustration immensely. Le-Monarque/T-Lord/Slayer's Fang/Div for Overloads. Arby/Lament/Revision Zero/Erianna's for Barriers. Bastion/Queenbreaker/Mally/Levi for Unstops. These then offer you buildcrafting and playstyle guidelines. Most of these are very solid this season with the right setup! I'd really only argue against Erianna's. The rest have viability given the Arc/Void/Kinetic affiliations they support within the Meta.

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                • The praxic sword has been my go to champion buster this season. Messes up the barrier dudes hard. For overload, I go impact with stasis subclass (super for pris). Unstoppable i roll solar with same set up. I thought this tactic would be meme but it works great. I also hate them, no shade

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                • outside barriers that you use heavy sniper, not using heavy sniper this season is trolling, i never use artifact mods for guns

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