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10/19/2025 11:50:33 AM
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Fixed delta in portal activities. 550 power useless.
The introduction of fixed deltas in portal activities is the worst thing that could be implemented. Increasing activity power through modifyers was way better since you could run basically any activity at a maximum delta of -20 (but usually at +0) and get the same rewards as you get now playing at a fixed -30 if you're at 500+. Also before the last update if you were at 500 you were encouraged to raise your power level so that the delta to get +2 drops would get lower but now you're fixed at -30 so there's no actual reason to aim for 550. If your goal instead is to just farm T5s you will get them at you power or at 499 but you'll still be forced to play at -30 or -25 when before the update you could play at +20 to +50 and farm T5s.
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10 RepliesIt's literally easier now than it's ever been ? You used to have to be -50 to get a plus one .now your minus -30 and you adjust your mods to high b+ . It's literally easier .pressure cooker anti surge mods . People have to stop complaining about -30. It's not that hard
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I’m fine with power being a score on loot tier.
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1 Reply"there's no actual reason to aim for 550." You are wrong. I get tired of hearing people say this. For every power level under 550, you make it harder on yourself to complete the final Ultimate Conquest. That's not the ONLY reason, but it is one reason to be 550. There are people in the game that want to complete End Game difficulty content.
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1 ReplyPl is just an entry key... unlock harder difficulties and conquests. It does impact guardian rank, which influences quality of rewards. Gr11, which requires 550, means you'll get t5 from vendor engrams... e.g. arms week etc
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1 Reply[quote]The introduction of fixed deltas in portal activities is the worst thing that could be implemented. Increasing activity power through modifyers was way better since you could run basically any activity at a maximum delta of -20 (but usually at +0) and get the same rewards as you get now playing at a fixed -30 if you're at 500+. Also before the last update if you were at 500 you were encouraged to raise your power level so that the delta to get +2 drops would get lower but now you're fixed at -30 so there's no actual reason to aim for 550. If your goal instead is to just farm T5s you will get them at you power or at 499 but you'll still be forced to play at -30 or -25 when before the update you could play at +20 to +50 and farm T5s.[/quote] Well, i have noticed that new characters are unable to use portal since my warlock (which is 320 light power...right now) my titan is unable to use portal since it shows 300 as the only acceptable option without penalty to loot and points......its kinda hard to do Master difficulty with 168 power......poor design.
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2 RepliesMinus 30 is not that bad man.
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4 RepliesSo don't go to 550 then. What does crying about it on the forums accomplish. If anything you should be apologizing to everyone who has to read this.
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3 RepliesEdited by SailGREid-3: 10/20/2025 9:11:03 AMFixed deltas help people on the lower end but don't give incentive for people on the high end. My understanding is Bungie prefers to help players get to 450-470. The only goal after that is to get GR11, play ultimate conquests and be max power when Renegades drops. Personally, I just don't like that tier 5s are tied the power grind process meaning you needed to play 150+ hours. I ve seen so many 500+ people that are straight up bad at the game and don't even play obj. Tier 5s have lost their meaning. Trials are also pointless if I get 4 tier 5 drops from losing a game with no wins on my card. What's the point of the ticket then?
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1 ReplyIf you do the Ultimate Conquests, I assure you being 550 is not useless.
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1 ReplyIf -30 for anyone 550 is hard... you ran the easiest -blam!- you could to get that high. Your opinion is useless.
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4 RepliesThey need to tweak the pinnacles. Timers are too short and enemies too spongy for solo play.
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2 RepliesGood. So it means getting to 550 isnt the main and only goal of the game now lmao. Game is slowly healing but there is still a long way to go. Leveling should never be the main goal of a game. (Also reaching 550 is just to guarantee t5 drops, not to melt everything under your path)
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6 RepliesIt’s the worst thing they have done, I worked my butt of to get to 550, now anything over 470 is pointless.
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2 RepliesThe thing I don't understand is why they don't implement a sliding scale so the delta stack at specific power thresholds to increase difficulty that makes sense but you should also be able to over level those deltas to then make it easier with investment in time and gear It's the caps that are the problem if you remove the caps and let people just play and then have a modifier that adds a cap for additional loot or whatever
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You get stronger to make yhe game harder. This is the opposite of how it should be but they should make all mods and power delta and timers optional. Give and emblem that tracks your score for those players that want to show off, other then that why force people that dont want the delta to play with it. That's how you kills your game only the better players that want the challenge will keep playing. I would rather feel like superman when doing the activities.
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1 ReplyThere's a way to do deltas without making leveling pointless. Make it a scaling level nerf instead of a level cap. What I mean is that ultimate won't affect your level lower than 470. Once you reach 500, you're still nerfed to 470. But every level above 500 adds to your nerfed level. So being 530 would simply have you nerfed to 500, and being at 550 would have you nerfed to 520. If they're truly adamant on not letting us overlevel too much if at all, this is the way.
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Agreed but delta removal wouldn't make power matters that would apply if we had modifiers that make power level useless.
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1 ReplySomewhat related question, how are the delatas in non-portal activities? Any point in power leveling to be able to out-level that content? Would have been fun to streamroll dungeons and whatnot.
