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Edited by CyberSec911:
10/14/2025 9:13:20 PM
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Leveling Was NOT Improved Today (Update 9.1.5.1)
Players now get more rewards, which means fewer activities will be needed to level up. BUT, due to the forced -30 power delta, every activity will take longer to complete. Fewer activities, but MORE TIME. This is a net loss for players.
When the folks at Bungie get together to discuss potential changes, they are not thinking about how to make leveling easier/faster. They’re just trying to find ways to make it appear they are improving things, while keeping the grind hours (& player count) as high as possible.
They can’t give without taking. It’s always a trade-off.
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I dunno, I went from 545 to 550 with 3 activities (one reclaim and 2x control). The reclaim was the MM version, just to see how it felt, and it wasn't difficult. Overall, this is a net buff for grinding, if you build up the bonus drops and don't spam the same activities.
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1 Reply-30 power delta is a walk in the park, the -50 was no big deal to be fair. This update will help tons of players, it's easier and the drops have improved leveling.
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Difficulty is tied to score in the portal. You do not have to do the harder content to get good loot. Doing the harder content makes it easier to get good loot. As it should be.
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Not really true. The day before the reset I was 499. In one evening (+/- 3 hours of playing) after the reset I got to 507 by playing Solo ops, Control and Competitive.
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Edited by Uthought86: 10/15/2025 12:48:21 PMLeveling is better
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3 RepliesI mean... Just by doing activities with bonus rewards, i went from 507 to 530 in a few hours. Its infinitelt better than before lmao.
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2 RepliesBungie = Monkey’s paw. There’s always a catch.
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1 ReplyThey don’t think about the casual player enough…. I see most of the replies to this are forgetting that most people can’t play Destiny like a job….
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Thank you for pointing out the glaring obvious issue. The bdfs in here would have you believe that it's better. It's clearly not. This is just a reverting back to where we were pre EoF. Ya know, when everyone was shouting to take away the deltas and what not. Rewards or not, this is just another in the long line of backpedals that Bungie is doing yet again. Don't let the bdfs glaze this as something good.
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4 RepliesIt absolutely was improved. Its like 10x better than before. Please....stop complaining.
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-30 was the most I'd go for in customization with any boons for A grade rewards. This change is minor.
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10 RepliesLeveling was made pointless. Why be 550? Your power is capped at 470.
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I haven’t even logged in since the changes and still I know you are wrong. PLEASE… stop complaining
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It absolutely was improved also check what modifiers are active on the available reclaim options as some of them don’t have limited revives
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Edited by TUROK-81: 10/15/2025 4:17:18 AM💡 How to Revive Destiny 2? Give Us the “Exotic Heart”! Everyone keeps talking about how to “fix” Destiny 2 — less monetization, more content, better balance. But what if the solution is the opposite? What if Destiny needs to become overpowered again? ⸻ 🩸 The Concept: The Exotic Heart Every Exotic weapon and armor piece could have a chance to gain an Exotic Heart — an ultra-rare, mystical upgrade that takes the item to a whole new level. These Hearts can’t be crafted, focused, or targeted. They’re pure RNG, incredibly rare drops — the kind of loot that makes you scream in disbelief when you finally get one. ⸻ 🔥 Examples: • Hard Light – Exotic Heart: Kills trigger weakening explosions. Kills on weakened targets cause an additional blinding explosion. Also: no damage falloff. • One-Eyed Mask – Exotic Heart: Keep all vanilla original perks, plus a permanently active radar, even while aiming. ⸻ 🧠 Why This Could Work Destiny 2 has become too predictable. Everything is balanced, controlled, and carefully tuned. The “Exotic Heart” system would bring back mystery, excitement, and prestige. It would give players something legendary to chase again — that wild dream of finding the perfect, one-of-a-kind version of their favorite Exotic. In short: ➡️ More chaos. ➡️ More fantasy. ➡️ More Destiny. ⸻ 💬 What do you think? Would this system be genius or completely broken? Would you love the idea of your favorite Exotic having a hidden, god-tier version out there in the wild? Or would that level of RNG and power creep destroy balance? And honestly? If Destiny is going down, let’s go out with a Gjallarhorn moment — a final, glorious explosion of chaos and fun that reminds us why we fell in love with this game in the first place. 💥
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2 RepliesLeveling was SIGNIFICANTLY improved today, and if you're having trouble with -30, that's an insanely painful skill issue.
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I never understood how people were able to reach the scores at less than -30 pre-patch so I consider it a HUGE win - because I always played at at least -30. Now I'm able to do it with less modifiers.
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It has been improved. For an investment of maybe 50% more time you are basically getting twice as much progress as before.
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I can only talk for myself. On my way from 450 to 500. Constant tier 5 loot, no problem. At least one +1 or +2 item, with bonus engrams more. I think it's neither better or worse than last weeks and time consuming but easy to level up. As long as you enjoy playing which I currently do and are willing to invest the time it is a long but smooth upgrade path, of course you/I need to play the portal for that matter. Take care and be positive and if this game only leads to bad emotions for you personally then do something else which brings fun. Best case, real life!
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You are completely wrong by saying this is a net loss for players. Everyone knows that you will level way faster with this new system. It's called a NET GAIN. Spend a little more time, and get rewarded greatly.
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2 Replies[quote]Players now get more rewards, which means fewer activities will be needed to level up. BUT, due to the forced -30 power delta, every activity will take longer to complete. Fewer activities, but MORE TIME. This is a net loss for players. When the folks at Bungie get together to discuss potential changes, they are not thinking about how to make leveling easier/faster. They’re just trying to find ways to make it appear they are improving things, while keeping the grind hours (& player count) as high as possible. They can’t give without taking. It’s always a trade-off.[/quote] So it takes a few minutes extra. If you have 3 bonus drops for the activity it can equate to much faster leveling.
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I think its much better, they removed timers too.
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1 ReplyRan solo ops the conflux 2xs at A+ ultimate. Received 2x 1 level drops and 2x 3 level drops. My character is at 475 power. Bungee: we’ve heard you and are taking steps to reduce the shooter looter even more. Please play marathon so Sony doesn’t fire us. We gave you more unstable cores AND took away any reason to grind. Play it your way.
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10 RepliesLiteral skill issue
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4 Replies-30 is maybe a minute longer on a solo op for me compared to before this update at what i was running. My fireteam managed to complete reclaim runs in under 7 minutes with a full team, under 8 with just two of us. If people are being significantly slowed by a -30 setting, they might need to address what they're using and how they're playing. It's like complaining how the old GM nightfalls weren't accessible enough to every kinderguardian. And that's coming from someone who believes we need more accessibility for low skill players. Not everything in the game is meant for everyone. Trials isn't meant for me, for example. Heck, even crucible is no longer meant for players like me. I just don't do that activity anymore.
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2 Replies[quote]Players now get more rewards, which means fewer activities will be needed to level up. BUT, due to the forced -30 power delta, every activity will take longer to complete. Fewer activities, but MORE TIME. This is a net loss for players. When the folks at Bungie get together to discuss potential changes, they are not thinking about how to make leveling easier/faster. They’re just trying to find ways to make it appear they are improving things, while keeping the grind hours (& player count) as high as possible. They can’t give without taking. It’s always a trade-off.[/quote] I was 510 and am now 525 after a couple of hours. Content is far easier since I can slap three positive modifiers on everything and not have to counter them with negative modifiers that put me 50+ under.
