What was playable/enjoyable is now just f.......ing a mess. For the love of God, REMOVE THE DELTA BS if you still want to retain some of the small player base you have.
What is so hard to understand, we play for FUN, not to get frustrated the whole time.
Why the f..k are we not allowed to over level for content?
As for me, I'm done.
PS: for the "Git Gud" army - .................you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is literally what the old Grandmaster Nightfalls were like but made slightly easier due to the ability to modify what boosts or negative modifiers are active, if your struggling with it find out what gear item is letting you down or completely review your build it's not impossible to solo ultimate tier content (excluding conquests) with a very well put together build
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We're leveling up faster at least. But otherwise the only real upsides to this update are that fireteam ops aren't timed, they don't have limited lives, and the bonuses for all the modifiers/ player stakes have been significantly increased, something they neglected to even imply when they announced these changes that go against part of what they advertised in the vidocs; "power is enabled in the portal". Not anymore! I don't know anyone who actually enjoys playing at deltas half because it's a half baked attempt at a difficulty system and half because it completely negates any incentive to level up as you don't get stronger. You just level up now to get T5 rewards at lower reward tiers, but anyone who has even the slightest idea how to work modifiers was already earning maximum rewards for their level, even in matchmaking. So going from 500-550 is still basically pointless because we're both ultimately putting in relatively the same effort for the same rewards. What was the point again for negating almost the entire reason to level up again if we're always going to be at a disadvantage?
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Edited by ABADDON_WOLFFE: 10/15/2025 8:12:40 AM😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ok which one of you broke this dude this bad previous to this jewel of a post? In any case: see you tomorrow. :)
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I agree, the game should be fun not punishment. The higher we get the worse the game is. We shouldn't be forced to play at a negative delta all of the time. The modifiers in the portal should be for customizing your experience without having to worry about score. It should be about completion not punishment. We are all low different players with different skill levels and reasons for playing. If I want to chill and over power myself to have fun let me do that and still get good gear, if I want to run at a -50 with all of the bad modifiers i can add let me do that. Let the score be about bragging rights, something to show off with an emblem. I dont want to run everything at a -30 delta all of the time, its not fun to me and we dont have anything that's new and GOOD to play nor do we have much loot to chase so why would I play the same old stuff over and over if ita not fun.
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That's whole reason I won't touch that crate they give us.
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If you don't like -30 then play a lower difficulty. The scoring system is not as punishing as it was. You'll get get good loot.
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These Deltas suck.
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Power Deltas in the portal are absolute GARRRRRBAGE. Nothing more fun than leveling up to... Never be more powerful than the enemies I'm fighting??? Power delta should be a modifier that the play can add for bonus rewards when they are customizing the activity themselves. But deltas as the standard for the difficulty level is trash and makes the game unenjoyable
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Edited by Magiscene: 10/15/2025 12:22:08 PMPower deltas make the power grind so pointless because you can’t over level. Now that you are forced to play under leveled there is absolutely no point to the power grind other than to say hey I have more time invested in the game.
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If anyone reads this for feedback, I disagree and know not everyone feels this way.
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Yep. Those portal changes is awful. They forcing people to play on difficulty that match power level and still cut off your power (otherwise you won't get B rank) to make all activities harder for no reason. Why I am even must care have higher light level, if it's lead to participate in activities that have champions and all enemies make more damage on you? Higher do rate of exotics? Five star loot, that barely better? Previously you could get even 70+ armour from any activity, now it's power locked. In short, no matter how strong you become, you always will be weaker then your enemies. It's make no sense.
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Edited by K1NG G 144: 10/15/2025 11:12:58 AMDamn fa real? Idk man I’m cookin. I can use Getaway Artist. I don’t even have to modify anything to get tier 5 and high level gear. Its way better now for me. I’m leveling FAST! Just my opinion tho.
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Im sorry that enemies can (kinda) fight back a little now
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But fireteam delta is easy. Solo delta is easy too. I am 550. Dont know whats the problem
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Byeeee! Miss yooouuu! 😊
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Edited by Dooodley: 10/15/2025 9:23:09 AMWhat are you guys talking about? It's way easier to reach the scores now - without making it a drag - and it's raining loot. I went from 512 to 522 in a few hours (havent used the weekly free loot) . I feel like they hit the sweetspot with this one. I will say this though, [i]damage taken[/i] feels off in relation to pre-patch. I never read the patch notes so I don't know if they buffed enemy output but I feel like I take way more damage now. And it's not a delta thing because I played at these deltas earlier too and if it had been a delta thing my own damage ouput would have been affected too - which it isnt. It's just incoming damage.
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Use middle to customize. Easy, peasy.
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Git gud m8.
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Git gud 👍
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Yup why cap us under and not have ability to be bad a%%s
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Edited by Meat Fountain: 10/15/2025 3:25:54 AMMeat Fountain
Anathema, Judgement, 4 - old
Yeah this sucks now. No more chill, only sweat or meta loadouts. Edit: To elaborate, Actium/Choir void titan still slays at -25, but my poor hunter's still a coughing baby. Edit 2: And now I have losers DMing me to git gud because our ideas of enjoyment don't align, lmao. Post your opinions here, cowards. Edit the third: The changes are, fortunately, not as bad as I'd feared – at least on the strong builds on my titan. Being able to stack certain modifiers without being worried about the effect on power can result in some goofy combinations. -
Edited by Howiepenguin: 10/15/2025 12:45:23 AMWelcome to what I've been yelling at the bdfs on this forum about since the recent announcement of these changes. Bungie is so out of tune with the community it is borderline ear raepe everytime they come out of their caves to talk to us. It hurts, and the community is not putting up with it anymore.
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Deltas sucked from the very inception. Forcing players who do not have good gear into master level activities via the 300 LL armor chest is not doing the game any favors. There was one of the guns and one piece of gear that was actually usable in a build for me. There is no way I am using that 300LL gear level my crappy gear up and it is no good to actually use by itself. Bungie is NOT helping with forced power deltas and bad gear drops.
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They screwed it up. Being 550, I was running modifiers on ultimate activities at 570 set at B+, but getting A. Now, it's capped me a tier 470, and everything is at a hard setting. Wtf.
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Ya Deltas are not fun but...that's what the "difficulty" tiers are as a transparent number....at least as far as I understand anyway...it's the caps that need to fix so we can beat the delta with light levels then over level to make it easier with work invested...
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Whoever thought of Power Deltas works for the enemy to sabotage Bungie.