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Edited by Coal:
9/4/2025 6:20:39 AM
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The sandbox changes are extremely tone deaf
The main thing that stuck out to me was the nerf to thunder lord.
First of all, thunder lord is not overpowered or an outlier to begin with. The DP contest was the first time it was seriously used in end game content in years. You know why that was? Because of the ammo economy. It was the only weapon in the entire game that was able to combat your damage sponge bosses.
Don’t get it twisted, it wasn’t used by everyone because it’s OP, it was used by everyone because it was quite literally the ONLY option. It was impossible with any other weapon.
You guys seem to have a really hard time differentiating between high usage of a weapon because it is too good, and high usage of a weapon because everything else is so bad.
The thunder lord nerf will make it completely unviable for the upcoming contest.
Next, Lord of Wolves.
Another weapon that was necessary for every team to clear DP contest - NOT because it’s too good, but because there was no other option. This is the exact same deal as thunder lord. Instead of nerfing the only thing that allowed people to just BARELY clear DP contest, maybe you should add other options.
Next, Grand overture.
This nerf came out of nowhere. Not only was no one using this for ANYTHING - the last time it was seriously used was during contest sundered for Zoetic Lockset because YOU guys released the dungeon BUGGED where the boss would not take crit damage.
Additionally, just like Thunderlord, grand overture is primarily used due to its good ammo economy. Its damage is nothing special, and it only ever sees usage in long damage phases. Nerfing its ammo economy renders it useless, since that’s the only reason people use it.
Next, Queenbreakers
Yet again, a nerf that makes no sense. It was only good last season because of particle deconstruction. Now, it doesn’t even get close to topping the charts for damage. Even on the off chance that any team was considering using QBs for DP epic contest, any consideration is now gone.
These changes are oddly reminiscent of you guys nerfing solo ops… you guys nerfed the one activity we found was the most efficient to level, instead of buffing loot in other activities.
You guys make it more and more clear every day that you are no longer a group of devs who make games that YOU want to play. I doubt even 1% of you play your own game regularly. I doubt even a single person at Bungie is in tune with the sandbox at all. Your downfall has been quite the thing to watch.
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A year ago I probably would've disagreed about the assumption that the devs don't play the game. But it has got to be so damn true now that I don't have any doubts that majority of the people spearheading these changes play a max of 4-5 hours a week playing the game, outside of work hours. The most recent example from a long list I could rant forever about; I collect every triumph in the game. I never did the fabled campaign instead I went straight to mythic after my first playthough and the raid came out. Completing the fabled time latch missions that are matchmade was such a painful experience. First of all, the triumph makes you play every mission again on fabled, but if you dont want to solo every one or you simply don't want to take the time to look up where you start the mission (since for some reason theres no mapmarkers telling you where to start them on Kepler) then you have to RNG getting the mission you need. But it gets even worse, since other people are doing this too, you constantly get people joining and leaving in a darkness zone in these missions, essentially softlocking/gatekeeping the mission because when they join they spawn dead, and if they leave before you revive them you wipe to light fading. This wasn't a one off experience this was happening consistently on every mission I tried to matchmake, keep in mind that we are only about a month after the DLC dropped. This...this is just one example of the people making this game not being in touch with the communityand how the community will interact with the game. I feel like most average players could've given enough foresight into this specific thing being a problem. Just like all the current players are saying most these sandbox changes are BS.
