I hear you, although I'm not playing as much as you do, by far. I'm just a casual player, playing an hour or two per week perhaps. More at holidays, less in busy weeks. Bungies last hope is players like you, Grinders (and I don't mean that in a disrespectful or negative way, quite the opposite). There probably are some new people playing EoF and Destiny for the first time in their life, but many Casuals that have been playing Destiny for a long time, I think have left or taking a break. Players who grinds for the grindings sake are the players Bungie have focused on these last years, and very much now with EoF. Why? They keep the metrics up. It does not matter really what content Bungie releases, if there is a way to grind, the Grinders will grind - anything. The other players are more difficult, if the content is good they may play Destiny for a bit longer per season, if it is bad they leave for another game. But those who like the grinding will play the whole season and put in a lot of hours, hence quite good metrics anyway. Seeing that a broader spectrum of players, casuals as well as grinders, don't like EoF, I think Bungie understands they are at a real low, but they can't publically say so, of course. Personally I think Renegades will be the end of Destiny as we know it. Perhaps Sony brings in another studio for a remake sometime after Renegades, or sell it away to another studio willing to take the helm. For Bungie, Marathon is what matters, and everything Bungie has is probably put into trying to make Marathon work. The Destiny team probably just have a skeleton crew. If Marathon also fails, it does not look good for Bungie. Time will tell.