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8/16/2025 8:06:26 PM
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I wanna use my old weapons without being punished for it
The game is so boring and restrictive now.
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3 RepliesEdited by Moldrok: 8/18/2025 8:50:54 AMStarting a new reply to this as well just to add, saying the game is boring and restrictive for trying to incentivize people to use new stuff instead of the last 4 years of gear is a crazy take Edit: ON WORMGOD HAMMER AND OUTBREAK
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“Play your way” unless it’s too fast or efficient
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Agreed. At the very least, they have to get rid of that Avant-Gard modifier.
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2 RepliesOld armor was made useless with T4 and T5 rolls that easily add up to 100+. Old Exotic rolls are somewhat useful if they are of the current curated collection. Also it is hard to gain the higher exotic rolls. Old weapons are useful with no real disadvantage other then curated bonuses. That said cost to bring up to light level is so high you need to prepare to use in new games. Exotic weapons have curated types limiting bonuses. At least you don’t need to get new rolls for new unique settings. So much Bungie could do to improve quality of life. Holding onto hope they see the light. This laser focus on season gear has got to stop.
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Sunsetting without actually saying sunsetting
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1 ReplyWent to put together another hunter build and the special energy slot is sooooo limited for featured gear in every category of weapon archetype and energy type compared to my vault options. I’m getting shoehorned into making really similar utility builds cause I’m restricted heavily by this as well as the champion mods in the artifact, because you can’t always rely on randoms to have stun capabilities. It is so annoying now that I’m build crafting and want to move away from the same play style in every encounter and using the same weapons on all 3 characters.
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I got to stack on so many modifiers just to achieve B rank now.... It's like the stronger I get power-wise the less points I get but the larger the number?... And every time I get gear that's better than the gear I got the points I get go up but it means less? And every time I get to a power threshold I stop getting gear unless I'm playing the hardest thing available? I'm trying to help my buddies do missions and set up modifiers and whatnot help them out they'll get gear and hire ranks but I don't and get less score but I'm higher level so it should be easier but it's not? What kind of backwards system did they make for this expansion?
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I do agreed force to use new meta weapons and killing our time and investment of our gear, guns, exotics. To only be properly penalized for using it.
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16 RepliesI think the point is being lost to some on this post. The point isn’t that the weapons are unable to be used at all, which of course isn’t true, but the fact that you are punished for using old weapons. Your total score isn’t as high as it could be, as well as you are unable to participate in the Avant Garde modifier. Regardless, I’d love to use old weapons, however once the solar sword comes out with Eager Edge, I won’t necessarily have a need for any non-featured gear.
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Me too… hate sunsetting
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27 Replies[quote]The game is so boring and restrictive now.[/quote] You certainly can use old gear. However if you want to get the best grade then you may need to make use of featured gear for the bonus multiplier. If you are below 400 and would rather use old gear when leveling you can. You can still level but won't get +3 or +4 gear, you'll only get +1 or +2 gear. A bit slower bu t you still progress and get to use what gear you want. If you want to progress as fast as possible then do what's required to achieve your goal.
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27 RepliesJimmy getting ice cream doesn't mean you're being punished when you don't get ice cream, Steve.
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1 ReplyShow me the part where it says you can't use old gear
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Edited by Mark, Scholar of Stars: 8/17/2025 12:41:07 PM[quote]The game is so boring and restrictive now.[/quote] Yes, it is. You can use your "old" weapons like I do. But it isn't optimal for progression. If you want the "best" out of it, you have to play like Bungie wants you to: using current armor and weapons. I don't like it either, but that's how it is with "Edge of Fate." Bungie changed almost everything with that new DLC. How this works can be seen... In the meantime, Sony hired ex-Bungie developers, established a new studio with them called "TeamLFG," with headquarters in Bellevue, WA, the same place as Bungie has his headquarters, and set them to produce a new live service game. It looks like it wasn't all that bad, developed formerly by Bungie. Edit: I don't like the Portal. Everything is centered around it, including Seasonal Challenges. I avoid it. Instead of, I take the planetary tour for bounties with the Director. I like diversion.
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too bad. every match is graviton spike and last thursday now.
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14 RepliesA lot of people seem to mistake a slight reward for trying new gear for being penalized for using old stuff
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Incorrect
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38 RepliesFun fact, you're 100% allowed to use old gear. A single modifier that only exists inside conquests, is not a valid argument for why you "can't use old gear".
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24 RepliesWho told you that you can't use your old weapons?
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5 RepliesAnd if you didn't fork out for the expansion, the Free stuff, apart from the Area GL, is all rubbish. But you get penalised for playing with your old stuff, especially in Crucible.
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Life is Brutal 😂😂😂 That’s the new motto at Bungo HQ
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1 ReplyI personally wouldn't mind if they just removed the score bonuses for using new gear. The damage/dr buffs aren't super noticeable especially if you aren't using higher tiered loot. The volatile mods are super cool and we had similar mods last season. Out of the hundreds of missions I've done since the dlc dropped, I've only used avant guard less than 10 times including all conquests and multiple cutting edge games. There's just no reason to pick it in custom modifiers when equipment lock gives double the multiplier and is less restrictive. As far as I'm aware it never shows up in matchmade activities either. Also I genuinely wouldn't lose sleep if they removed the featured gear system entirely tho. Clearly a large amount of players dislike it including cc's
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It's not about how you want to play, it's about how Bungie wants you to play.
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Edited by CORPERATE COMMANDER: 8/17/2025 11:56:47 AMYep just soft sunsetting like they did armor many will say its not sunsetting but we know who those usual suspects are. Bungie promised no more sunsetting years ago, but removed deep sight harmonizers from the season pass and practically sunset crafting weapons , too what we have now with armor and weapons . I haven't even logged in since I saw the changes coming eof but from what iv grasped from the forums bungie also sunset gm nightfalls?
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9 RepliesBungie brought sunsetting back. They claimed they ended sunsetting after constant backlash. Yet here they are back at. Just in a new passive aggressive way. Dozens of hours spent chasing rolls for a particular weapon. Wasted. Disrespected.
