Fun fact grandmaster is easier solo than match made master

You can walk right over Grandmaster solo ops by controlling your power delta to the enemies. If you use the following settings you'll never be more than -20 compared to the enemies, which is quite manageable: 1. Turn on all player stakes - Locked Loadout, No HUD, No Staring Ammo and Brawn 2. Turn on one Bane option That's it. I know a lot people hate playing with no HUD and no starting ammo, but you can finish pretty much all Solo Ops using abilities and primary ammo, until you pick up special and power ammo bricks, and get them done in <5 minutes. Just run the side objective, the main object, and kill the boss. Kills do not accrue points in Solo Ops, and there is no need to kill the champions except in the mines or if you need them for a "kill X number of enemies" type side objective. Once you approach power level 420 you may need to add an additional 10 points modifier (making the encounter -30), which will feel more difficult. That requirement will go away once you get past 410 (meaning you can go back to setup I initially provided). Maxing out your power level and collecting Tier 5 gear is no longer a matter of competing difficult activities. They are participation trophies for simply putting in the time. If you need help with build advice to clear your Grandmasters easily hit me up.

[quote]Solo ops were actually relaxing and fun until the master tier difficulty started locking all the new event loot behind endless slogs of champions and intense modifies that make everything 2-3 shot you meanwhile it takes ages to clear a single room filled with nearly endless spawning enemies. Who TF is play testing bungie games? I don’t give a crap what streamers think or what famous streamers want? At what point is any of this loot, including tier 5 even worth it if you will always be F’ed by every enemy in the game at the “streamer paradise endgame”. Stop making difficulty a bragging rights challenge, I don’t need twitch donations or the illusion of skill by wasting 20 minutes of my time on a single master solo op or 30-40 minutes on a single fireteam match made master op. If I want to play a difficult game I’ll go find something like elden ring or dark souls 3, destiny is not that game. I don’t want a blood pressure raising experience 24/7 outside of raids and some dungeons. I don’t give a crap if streamers get bored and nobody is impressed with them playing content that’s “too easy”. They can play other games or get real jobs like everyone else. They will disappear and be forgotten in a matter of time, they are not Keanu reeves or Leanardo di caprio. No one cares that much about these players. To the people who genuinely do, the people who would rather watch a streamer give updates on destiny news or livestream raid or PvP content than watch an actual new movie or show or anything else then I’m genuinely concerned for their well being. You’re really pushing me bungie to stop playing until a new dlc drops and hopefully all this crap is long in the past. You’re sucking out all the interest I have left in this game by creating a game so annoyingly hard it’s no longer fun, since the “fun” doesn’t end. You just keep reloading the same missions to grind power. It’s bad, very bad when pinnacle ops are more relaxing and easier than fireteam and solo ops of the same difficulty. If I wanted the entire game to feel like a freaking day 1 raid, I’d just ask for it. But if it takes me quitting Destiny 2 to show how little I like this crap, then so be it. Keep listening to your paid and sponsored streamers who operate in an echo chamber and prioritize content they can make money off of and or brag about beating to generate views and ad revenue. You’re ruining this game bungie, the armor 3.0 just about saved this game. The new guns just about saved this game, but reaching this new threshold of “master” difficulty makes me lose all hope and lose all desire to keep playing if everything from here on out will just be a automatic day 1 raid experience from now until the end of time. To whomever disagrees and thinks the game needs to be even harder, that they prefer this new “master” aka grandmaster 2.0 difficulty mode, then please go get help. Get therapy. Your family wants to see you leave your room. Your friends haven’t seen you in weeks and you should probably leave your house[/quote] ? You must be doing something very wrong. It takes under 20 minutes to solo the whisper .mission in pinnacle ops even on grandmaster with modifiers set so I'm 20 below. Kells fall and encore are 20 - 25 minute runs. Solo ops are at all difficulties are 4 - 6 minute runs to get the objectives done for an A grade. At certain thresholds you have set them up to 30 to 40 light under but in no way do they take longer than the 10 minute time allotted unless you are doing other things and wasting time like I was the other day doing an ada1 bounty to get kills with special ammo. Still didn't go overtime and had at least 2 minutes instead of 5 or 6 minutes left on the clock. Maybe you don't get how to set the modifiers up and not using gear that gives you bonuses. We're expert solo ops taking you 20 minutes? For me expert, master and grandmaster have roughly been the same difficulty. Once you raise your light by 20 it's gets a little harder, for instance at 300 to set stuff up to get an A grade you will be about 30 light below. At 319 your only 11 below with same modifiers. Getting an A grade only maximises the light level of the reward. If the modifiers make it too hard you can set less modifiers and B or B+ grade and instead of getting +3 gear you raise your light a little slower but easier with +1s and +2s.

You can edit the modifers don't stick with what the game gives you, take off anything that boosts the power of enemies and restrict your actions under HUD, loadout lockout etc. You only add modifiers after every 20+ increase in power.

Worst part, people in MM dont even understand or look at the modifiers. It's ridiculous to have no-self revives in fireteam MM when people dont play accordingly - not to mention that there can be instances where you've gone through a portal, they die behind you FROM JUMPING and you have no way of reviving them. We can have limited revives - that's fine - but leave no-self-revives out of MM.

I don't say it, but if I did, this is it.

Master solo ops shouldn't take you longer than the allotted time. You can skip enemies and champions. Only time its better to not skip is when the bonus obj is precision kills.

If you are doing a solo ops on any difficulty and it is rising you 30 minutes, I genuinely don’t know what to tell you.

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As an experiment, and not really wanting to do Master anything, I put in lower level gear and weapons, to drop my LL…🤔 Well, it didn’t! 😁 Am currently around LL310 / GR7 - and that’s about as far as I want to go. My H / W / T are all thereabouts now, only the Seal to complete, H’s lustrous armour + run the campaign (normal)…then, W and T will probably do the final campaign mission…or not. 🫤 Solstice was a step in the right direction, imho. That is all. Ease Springs! 🖖

I have to disagree with this one. I can understand your frustration but it doesn't take that long to run master difficulty in both solo and fireteam ops. And that's coming from a casual solo player. Also are you even at the required light level? Master difficulty unlocks BEFORE reaching 300 and if you're using difficulty modifiers to up your score you're only making it extremely difficult on yourself without it needing to be.

Incorrect

Once you hit the unlock threshold it automatically changes to the next Tier. If it's too hard at that moment for you, stay in the previous Tier to grind like 10-20 more points.

Just interjecting that solo ops don’t require you to kill champions at all, ever and if it takes more than idk 8mins max you are doing something wrong

The rotating Playlist ops are the only ones with the ridiculous modifiers. If you choose the one & done missions all you need is a locked loadout to get max rewards. Most important of all is your score isnt tied to killing the champions. You can skip them.