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Edited by Coal: 7/18/2025 5:27:40 PM
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Awful loot, difficulties, and campaign

I've completed the campaign and a few mythic missions at this point, and I have quite a bit to say... 1: Why are mythic missions advertised as locking you 50 under the enemy level, meanwhile we are really capped 70 under the enemy level? Is this a bug? (I am at 200 - the level cap for mythic - and when an enemy kills me it says they are 270) 2: At 70 under, the broken scout rifle (that is doing greater than heavy grenade launcher dps) takes an entire mag to take out one orange bar harpy... and you get one shot by just about everything 3: Upon completing these missions, you are rewarded with ONE tier 3 piece of gear... that's not even the highest tier! For all of that work!? The mythic mission (being 70 under) is almost three times the difficult as a grandmaster! Why are we getting a single piece of gear that isn't even close to being the best?! 4: I then decided to complete some Fabled missions because they are advertised as rewarding tier 2 gear. I figured they would be way easier and quicker, and way more worth the time to get slightly worse gear than mythic. But to my surprise, at the end of the mission, I got no loot! An empty chest! Cool! 5: I'm clearly beating a dead horse, based on everything being said in the forums already. The campaign was not fun. It was Incredibly tedious with all the puzzles and namely trying to find the damn hole (not like that) for the matterspark ball. 6: This armor 3.0 change, portal activities, and gear tiering has introduced way more grind into the game that is exponentially more exhausting, while also being less rewarding than before. I can't see this sustaining the game in the long term, maybe even the short term. 7: Idk if this is bugged too (I think I heard it is), but abilities including supers are regening so incredibly slow unless spec'd fully into it. It has completely killed the power fantasy. You have to have well over 100 for whatever ability (super, grenade, melee, class) in order to actually get the same cooldowns as we had previously at Tier 10 stats. The ceiling seems to have been raised, so you could get quicker cooldowns if you spec all the way to 200, but a stat below the ceiling results in incredibly slow cooldowns. 8: The ammo changes are terrible. I should not have to spec into receiving ammunition in an FPS. In end game content, abilities reign supreme. However, now with these changes, in something like the upcoming day 1, I am essentially forced to change my playstyle and rely solely on my guns (which are not usually as powerful as abilities) in order to make sure I produce enough heavy for boss dps. I have to prioritize weapon stat over health and build specific stats. I have to prioritize ammo generation weapon mods over backup mag and reload mods. I have to prioritize ammo finders over siphon and orb generation mods. I have to prioritize scavengers over ability regen mods. Ammo drops are not as frequent as you think they are. Either increase the base ammo generation stat, or increase the amount of ammo we get per brick. 2 shots per brick for a LFR is criminal.

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  • Grind for power! Only for it to mean absolutely nothing in most endgame activities. This is the Bungie Way.

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  • You should also post this on "Help us Help you " So they can also read these facts

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  • Bungie: “But the Streamers are happy…why arent you? They represent everyone right?”

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    • Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 7/18/2025 7:44:38 PM
      Streamers and tryhards will gleefully plink away at enemies and watch number slowly go up as the game crumbles around them.

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    • i was literally just reading through the update notes trying to get to grips with all the -blam!- changes theyve made, and just thought why am i bothering with this. just turned the game off. zero motivation to play it.

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      • Edited by NotCreative123: 7/18/2025 9:11:36 PM
        I made a build calculator using the new armor tiers... You really have to reach T5 to get anywhere approaching a "perfect" build, because T5 unlocks the Tuning Feature on armor (you get to move +5 from one stat to another) At T5 armor, the builds are crazy, though. If you only use T2 Armor, it is basically worse than what we had last season, before the update. I don't even think it is possible to get above T3 armor rn, and it is grindy

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      • Edited by Magiscene: 7/18/2025 2:15:13 PM
        The community wanted more grind. Bungie said hold my beer.

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          Genuinely too complicated and oversaturated grind.

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        • Working as intended. Bungie believes that games should not be fun but challenging, exhausting and overwhelming. Besides they’ve actually said the best loot in the game is playing with your friends. ( Of course they never wrote code to reward you with good loot) Although if you made your friends buy and play this game I’m sure they would no longer consider you a friend.

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          My nephew has been playing through Shadowkeep, Beyond Light and Witch Queen. They are all power capped too, the mission to release the skiff in Beyond Light has 200 power bosses. And the strike you have to do in each campaign ?? .. you need to solo those because the matchmaking doesn't work as Vanguard Ops are gone. He ran Glassway and the Dark Priestess mission, after he had done the previous steps in Fireteam Ops. Didn't count. So you have to solo those as well. You could get a Fireteam Finder team I suppose .. but not for Shadowkeep because it's not on there. I wonder why new players avoid Destiny ?? You could put matchmaking on all campaign missions but hey, that would make way too much sense.

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        • Who would have seen the flaws in this new tier system? Oh wait…99% of the player base did.

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          • Bro, I NEVER thought I’d get here but this new expansion has literally killed my motivation to play. Everything is a painfully slow and unnecessarily difficult grind for literally no reason. They have completely sucked the fun out of this game. All to appease their precious streamers. I just don’t care anymore…

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            • Also, what is with the changes to the Ada bounties, specifically pvp ones? Being weapon-specific means if you get a map where the weapon(s) you’re told to use doesn’t work that well, you either get no progress at all that entire match, or you suck it up and use the weapon and MAYBE get progress. Seriously, who was complaining about these bounties enough they felt the need to change them?

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            • I'm wiping on The Mission, so many times, I'm just sitting here trying to force myself to play it and complete it. That stupid matterspark is just so annoying, I'm falling off ledges, it's not jumping far enough, it doesn't mantle and I'm fair sick of it. I'm fighting with myself to finish this or go and watch some Youtube. That's how bad it is. I honestly haven't felt like this on a new episode mission and I've been playing since D1 and I've always run all three characters through these missions. Either I'm getting too old for this or my annoyance threshold has fallen through the floor.

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              • I can't believe that the creators of Destiny are more concerned about removing an exotic mission because of rewards and leaving PS4 players unable to play for 2 minutes without the connection dropping. It's very sad. I've had this problem for 2 days and nobody cares. I'm getting more and more angry with the game. You know how much people sacrifice to buy a DLC and can't even play it. Very sad

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              • Intellect/Super in PVP has to change. I think I'm at 50 and have multiple matches where I don't get a super till the very end of the match, even if I'm doing well. I feel like this should be advertised as the Public Beta

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              • PROTEST DAY ONE RAID RACE LET BUNGIE KNOW IF THEY DONT WANNA PLAYTEST THEIR GAME AND RELEASE A HALF -blam!- PROJECT. THEY HAVE REMOVED STUFF WE HAVE PAID FOR MADE THINGS WE HAVE EARNED INVALID. THEY CATER TO CONTENT CREATORS WHO PUSH THIS BS EVEN MORE. SO THIS YEAR VOTE WITH YOUR ATTENTION AND WALLET PROTEST THIS RAID RACE. UNTIL THEY START RESPECTING THEIR PLAYER BASE STOP GIVING THEM YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. VOTE IT UP THE FORUMS!!!!

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                • The light is probably from any negative modifiers you add. They add 10 or 20 to enemy power. Not a comment on your post. Just info I discovered myself today.

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                • My concern is the progression the campaign was fine legendary was very balanced it was my first legendary campaign that I ever completed. Even mystic and fable is in that bad but my problem with that is that there's not enough people to do it because a lot of people are just not close to 200 yet. When you play the arena and kepler Like You are getting some Crazy amount of drops you didn't like 3 or 4 pieces per Run.. I just feel like bungee wants people to focus so much on the portal even though the portal is not even a good way to love open the first place. As I told 1 person nobody's gonna sit there and do crucible and strikes all day just to get one piece of gear per run even if you get a high score you only get maybe 2 pieces of gear... I even told 1 person when there's more people who hit 200 in the community when we have maybe 60 or 70% of people who are 200 power people are going to start to realize that the progression system is too slow when it comes to grinding to 400... Think about it people right now who were close to 400 they exported the game they took advantage of a glitch without that farm no one would be 200 unless you grind campaign difficulties as I did. If you ever saw the early access even content creators even said that they felt like the progression system what they experienced was too slow and they are not confident that people would even be 450 by December when renegades hit when your power reset. Frankly when content creator said this bungee should have adjusted the progression they shouldn't have left it as is. You know example if you're doing like a master activity you should be receiving 3 pieces of gear not one because you're doing harder content you should be getting better rewards not less rewards!

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                • I think the enemies are 270 regardless and it scales you at whatever light you are at up to a max of 220. So really you wanna have someone in your fireteam at 220 otherwise you’ll end up being at more of a disadvantage than -50

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                  • Legendary campaign has 200 power enemies when you are 10 power it wasn’t a -190 power cap. Power doesn’t work that way anymore

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                    • Why has your profile only a Hunter character level 10 ? Have you even played EoF.

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