OP: ✅ I like Destiny. I started out as wingman to my (then) young son, as a T on his a/c around Xmas 2014. Some time later, he went away to school, so I got myself a ps4 and started my Destiny journey. Later, I bounced after the sunset debacle…over to WF, where I had a ‘whale’ of a time! (MR 24 😎) The vibe back then was very different to what it is these days…sadly! 🤔 Back then, we played everything as teams of m8s from all over the world, depending on time zones. Mostly, it was a hoot! Get the blue flambé hairdo, hit the raid, NF, Trials - to see if my little group got to level 3 / 5 or rarely / never to 7! And thence to 😴 That was then. Once I returned to Destiny’s shores, I changed the way I would engage with the game, ie, I’d play the way I want to… I use vanilla builds and do mostly vanilla stuff. I have an empty Friends List - not because I’m antisocial or anything, it’s just that the vibe’s not the same as it was, way back. I still meet many great Guardians out and about. I get to play with some real ninjas in Trials…along with a greater number of the SUS Brigade! 🤫 I’m a really casual ‘Casual’ who enjoys the simple vanilla Destiny stuff…the amazing environments, and shooting stuff! IMHO: despite some rather disparaging remarks towards us ‘Casuals’ - without us, Destiny would not be around today. Nor would the revamped Trials. Fact! 👈 I’m a longtime 0.3% old tortoise who grinds Trials for the odd piece of gear, and any new toys as they become available. I’ve been grinding Trials since way back…I even raffled my only visit to the lighthouse. My vault has nearly all of them! Just imagine how easy that was for a 0.3% old tortoise to do?! 🤔 It wasn’t. The new Trials system is okay. I go to the lighthouse every time now…but get overloaded with shardable stuff because getting a consistent win streak is still above slow reaction times and my arthritic thumbs! 😂 Although, lag / latency and the SUS Brigade are also contributory factors. 👈👈 The argument - ‘why do they (Casuals) need / demand adept toys?’ The answer: they don’t! All we’ve ever wanted was a fair fight against players at / around / slightly above, our own level, eg, Div IV (like me 👻) vs other Div IV players…and NOT stacked ninja stomper squads🤡🤡🤡, who squealed the loudest for Trials never to evolve or change. Some of the a/m 🤡 managed to run a nice little paid carry bizness, too! Well, the Casual element refused to play Trials…and it died not once, but thrice! ❌❌❌ It was a good move on BHQs part to revamp Trials, to what it is currently…, though, Div IV players - like me, can only get the base stuff…and no ships / ghost / sparrows / emblems. 🫤 FWIW: I know the obvious difference between a top player from a SUS player. I’ve had the good fortune to be the carry on a team of 2 + me…and to see these great players go to work on the 3x SUS team is a hoot! 🫠 Top players don’t need the bestest toys to win…they’re that good. A better reward for them is to appear on my oft suggested Wall of Fame…with laurels and emblems to match! The SUS Brigade need to be weeded out. Period. Moving on… There’s a lot of passionate Guardians from all sides of every ‘argument’ on these Forums, and many more who stay in the shadows, or simply stay away. This is a feedback forum…for important feedback for the devs to sift and sort, as required. Wisdom: If you’ve got nothing nice to say, then - say nothing! 👌 Play Nice! Play Fair! Don’t be a Quitter! 🫠 That is all. Ease Springs! 🫡