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6/8/2025 11:41:43 PM
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How do you keep coming up with new changes people consistently dislike?
Who's manning the ship right now Bungie? How, for real, do you keep coming up with one change after another that consistently pisses off 90% of the game's population? Personally, I've hated every change you have announced. And I know I'm not the only one. I hate armor 3.0. It will pretty much sunset all of my current builds, for all three characters just so you can attempt to squeeze more time out of me than my IRL job does. I hate the Prismatic nerfs. Ever since Prismatic and Exotic Class Items came out, we've yet to receive additions to prismatic and said class items. Just nerfs, over and over and over. I HATE the fact that new, seasonal weapons get a free 10-15% damage bonus just for being new slop while my old godrolls deal less damage. I am NOT buying Edge of Fate, and I will uninstall the game if you go through with any of these godawful changes. All of these need to be scrapped. This is all sunsetting all over again but you're simply too spineless do call it for what it is. We all know Marathon is going to flop. Which is already going to put you in a bad spot with Sony. But if you let Destiny 2 die too, we won't even get to see you fail with Marathon. Get rid of these changes so we can at least see you fail miserably with Marathon and come back begging to the D2 playerbase.
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This is what I call an unnecessary "L." Bungie is notorious for running face first into those.
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8 RepliesI want to grind! —- Bungie implements new armor sets No not that grind! —- Bungie adds new materials No not that grind! —- Bungie adds new gun levels so that you aren’t just re-using the same weapons every season No not that grind! Ya’ll just need to shut up and uninstall. Please, the majority of us who just enjoy playing the game are so tired of your whining. You’re the reason we can’t get a new player base. Learning a new game is tough but learning a new game with constant negativity in your face? Nearly impossible to keep going. Do everyone a favor and STOP TALKING ABOUT A GAME YOU SAY YOU HATE SO MUCH BUT CONTINUE TO PLAY!
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2 RepliesEdited by ACROCANTHUS: 6/9/2025 5:23:32 PMArmor 3.0 is necessary because armor drops are currently worthless. More than half the loot in a looter cannot be worthless. The new stats are interesting enough that I'm happy to regrind new armor after I do the campaign because current armor is still going to be reasonably usable in all content and only significantly outclassed by gear you earn from endgame based on what I've heard so far. Armor set bonuses also give them a way to make new armor worth more than transmog fuel once you have good stat rolls. Weapon tiers are also fine. Tier 5s sound cooler than adepts to me and enhanced barrels, mags, and origin traits probably won't be making much of a difference in potency of legendaries. Current enhanced adepts will be beyond viable. Prismatic nerfs are pretty lame, but honestly won't really do that much to reduce potency of the subclass. I'm going to wait for more balance changes to other subclasses and weapons before casting full judgment. I'm also not a fan of seasonal weapons getting a damage buff. I could get in some activities maybe, but if it's global, that's a decision I don't like.
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Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 6/9/2025 7:41:24 PMOne of the reasons I stuck with Destiny and don’t play games like Diablo is because it didn’t have any kind of seasonal reset. Now we’re getting that. One of the major criticisms about the seasonal model was that temporary activities was a bad system. Now we’re getting temporary destination gimmick abilities instead of actual new permanent additions to subs like we saw for the last 3+ years. Instead of balancing and expanding upon the meaningful bad luck protection that was crafting they just burned it to the ground. They just keep piling on reasons for me to pass. I was already on the fence because of the abandonment of crafting. They pushed me over the edge with the rest of this stuff.
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It's just whack-a-mole with different groups of the player base. If the casuals like it, it makes hardcore players mad and vice versa. If the pvp players like something, it's usually at the expense of PvE, and it can go the other way, though usually not. It's not like the same people hate every decision. There's just enough people wanting enough different things that any change is liked by some and hated by everyone else.
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[quote]just so you can attempt to squeeze more time out of me than my IRL job does[/quote] The answer is in the question. This is the only metric they care about.
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By ONLY taking streamer opinions instead of sending out surveys to the entire community. It’s not like they don’t already have our email addresses.
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There are aspects I think I’ll hate - potentially re grinding gear/light to play end game every season- and things i do like - armor 3.0 weapon tiers etc having 5/8 of my gear drops not be instashard is a welcome adjustment but; would rather this be an annual thing not every 6months.
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TheLastBlackKnightcheck my clan description please. - old
I’ve been guilty of it myself but generally people just don’t like change and they whine about things based on an unfinished build. My ONE issue with EOF is them reducing fragment slots so I won’t be able to make the equivalent of a 4x100 build this time. But that’s also kinda cancelled out by the fact that helion is going in the trash in exchange for feed the void now. -
8 Replies[quote]Who's manning the ship right now Bungie? How, for real, do you keep coming up with one change after another that consistently pisses off 90% of the game's population? Personally, I've hated every change you have announced. And I know I'm not the only one. I hate armor 3.0. It will pretty much sunset all of my current builds, for all three characters just so you can attempt to squeeze more time out of me than my IRL job does. I hate the Prismatic nerfs. Ever since Prismatic and Exotic Class Items came out, we've yet to receive additions to prismatic and said class items. Just nerfs, over and over and over. I HATE the fact that new, seasonal weapons get a free 10-15% damage bonus just for being new slop while my old godrolls deal less damage. I am NOT buying Edge of Fate, and I will uninstall the game if you go through with any of these godawful changes. All of these need to be scrapped. This is all sunsetting all over again but you're simply too spineless do call it for what it is. We all know Marathon is going to flop. Which is already going to put you in a bad spot with Sony. But if you let Destiny 2 die too, we won't even get to see you fail with Marathon. Get rid of these changes so we can at least see you fail miserably with Marathon and come back begging to the D2 playerbase.[/quote] Any change on here gets disliked by the forums. Literally every single one. No, this is not sunsetting. It is powercreep.
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This 💯 couldn't agree more.
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17 Repliesmost of the basic head using players ( not the forum cuz toddlers should not be counted as playerbase) like most of the changes. some changes are not good like the bonus dr/dmg tied to new gear and tier, should only be the tier, hunters being forced to run 70 stat to have the melee back this 2 changes are not good imo and for what i see lot of players agree Outside that 2 changes the game the game desperately needed structural changes to the loot system but sadly the gaming community in general especially the d2 community is a toddler community that will cry if they don't get the best loot without playing the game
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People are always going to dislike things; there's no way to appease everyone all the time. And on this forum, people are going to say they dislike most things, whether it's true or not. Apparently, it's what all the "cool kids" are doing.
