[quote]Ok. I've got a different thread going trying to figure out if my current vault is going to be trash. From that and other threads I think I've got this figured out. Bungie is changing Destiny to a model where all armor and all weapons are basically seasonal. When EoF releases, you can choose to run old loot and not gain DR or damage bonuses, or you can get new loot and gain DR and damage bonuses.[/quote] How does a seasonal artifact perk that is being used as an incentive to get people to stop running the same things they have been for the past few years mean that the game is going to a seasonal refresh model? There hasn't been a single thing shown for Renegades seasonal artifact yet, so basing this on speculation doesn't make it real. [quote]The when Renegades releases, all the stuff you just acquired may still be tier 5, but you'll lose the DR and damage bonuses. So you need to re-grind to replace all of that T5 stuff you just spent 6 months earning.[/quote] There hasn't been a single thing indicating that is the case for Renegades. Just because 1 season has a bonus to get people to use new things from the new updated loot system doesn't mean it will continue for every season now. [quote]If that's going to be the game model, why don't they just come out and say it? This model probably doesn't impact the hardcore players and streamers much. But what about the other 90% of the community? My gut says why play a looter-shooter where your loot is temporary?[/quote] Casual players aren't 90% and are far from it, and no one is forcing you to play