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Edited by Emprore:
6/8/2025 5:19:05 AM
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I don't think people really realize what the tiering system means in its current state
After having spent some time on the forum, I am just baffled when I see people trying to defend Bungie and being happy with the new tiering system for both weapons and armors.
Do you really know what it means?! Are you sure really? You can say whatever you want to argue with me but you have to face the facts (and only the facts).
The new tiering system in its [u]current state[/u] simply means [b]SUNSETTING[/b] the whole Destiny 2 content!!!
After the release of Edge of Fate, who is going to play the current raids, dungeons, gambit activities anymore? The answer is [b]NOBODY!!![/b] Simply because the weapons will only be T3 at best (I think we can even forget to talk about the armors outside for cosmetics).
Bungie has been clear, they want us to delete everything we currently have in the mid-term. And do you know why? They are simply lazy and they want to reduce the overall costs of the IT infrastructure such as databases (with the Vault). Give me a better answer to this question: why do they not add more slots in the vault?
[u]I will repeat it again and again and again until I am heard[/u]: I don't mind the new tiering system which will give us something new. But in its current state this is clearly [b]NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL!![/b]
To ensure the [u]smoothest transition[/u] to the new tiering system (and make everyone happy without deprecating the whole D2 content), you need to develop a system where you will have the possibility to [b][u]UPGRADE[/u][/b] the current weapons and armors. This system could be done through Banshee-44 or the Forge where you have to farm quests + components to upgrade stuff from T3 to T4/T5.
This is also going to give us the opportunity to invest even more time on your game for us to upgrade our weapons where we've spent hours and hours to grind. Again, this is not acceptable to see T5 weapons dealing more damage than T3 and you need to rethink this.
EDIT: https://youtu.be/unFp4lUZz5c?si=GKhjVX7w9bI_4ek4&t=645 /
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCbUYO_HYDg
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Edited by AppleSoda: 6/7/2025 8:19:54 PMNo, you’re just over exaggerating. The difference between tier 3 (current gear) and tier 5 is minimal. If it’s vs a “tier 3” Hezen Vengeance and a tier 5 rocket with the same perks but not Timelost Magazine I’m choosing Hezen 100% of the time, at least until they make Timelost Magazine but better. The tiering system doesn’t immediately invalidate old gear anymore than the steady perk/origin trait power creep has over the past however many years since Beyond Light’s sunsetting. The real problem is the 15% damage and DR on new gear, which I fully expect them to walk back or heavily limit/reduce and is mostly independent from the tiering system. What you people don’t realize is that the entire game (and genre) is built upon “sunsetting.” You people won’t accept a hard lockout from your old gear and so instead Bungie will continue to steadily power creep your old gear with new perks, origin traits, and weapon families/subfamilies: you just think that the tiering system is somehow different when fundamentally it’s a continuation of the status quo with a new coat of paint. The game needs you to want new gear and the only way to do it and for you to want it is to make new gear better than old gear. If you can’t see that, then you’re blind as it’s what they’ve been doing this entire time so they can effectively sunset old stuff and make you want new stuff: just look at the difference in power between the weapons from Europa vs the Pale Heart or Vow of the Disciple and the current Vault of Glass. I do have some concerns for old content but it’s fundamentally rooted in the fact that the content is dated. Is tier 5 gear going to make Unvoiced trash? Almost certainly not in the foreseeable future. Will it make Shattered Throne’s gear trash? It’s already trash. Core activities need steady loot refreshes and this is true regardless of if weapon tiering is in the equation or not.
