Glad to see people still struggle with game play after all these years. Bungie insists its the player and offers connection advice. Other players say get better or git gud sp??? A coworker told me he has a dedicated connection specifically for online console gaming. I cant do that where im living with these savages (my family lol). I think most people have a large amount of devices connected to their isp access point. Theres also latency. When i run a test, a ping sometimes is 30 miles away. Sometimes its 120 miles away. Also factor in coaxial v fiber. My isp has been telling us a fiber upgrade is coming (5 yrs). We had a tech come by for service and told us theyre currently installing fiber in newer subs and we keep getting pushed back. Were also in an area that offers only spectrum or att. We have spectrum. Also just from reading around the web, it seems the longer a player spends in the game, the better it looks traffic wise for the developer. Enter comp and trials for destiny. Average players could spend a day trying to get to the lighthouse, a weekend if they try with all 3. Basically, most people, like myself, are just trying to enjoy a game by simply turning it on. Its evident thats not how it actually is anymore. Also, get a good buzz and try to enjoy yourself.