[quote]Bungie. Marathon really really sucks. [/quote] I'm looking at the alpha. It doesn't seem to suck. I'd give it a try if i had that gen of console. [quote]will not be popular with this community.[/quote] Though i generally agree that people like you, i'm guessing all PvE Destiny above all gamers, won't like it. And that they are probably the bulk of D2 players now. And that's your right. Some people like a variety of games. I also like extraction shooters and literally quit destiny to play COD DMZ for more than a year. I only stopped DMZ after the new COD came out and DMZ was no longer updated since it was an Infinity Ward game and Infinity Ward was not running this season's COD. But i'm part of the Destiny community and some extraction shooters are for me. Not Tarkov that's for sure. But fact is i've kinda stopped Destiny too and the only two games currently installed on my console are DMZ and Destiny. Me i'll wait to say if it's good or not after i get to play it. And maybe it's not for me. I i liked DMZ. I'd hate Tarkov. I liked Destiny and didn't really like Borderlands (though i didn't give it much time). Also a business needs to diversify it's revenue streams. Lots of game companies sell multiple games.