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4/24/2025 8:14:35 PM
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What Would D3 Actually Do That D2 Can’t?

**Okay, so I know this is a hot topic — especially now that people have seen the *Marathon* reveal.** Let’s be real: *Destiny 3* isn’t what Bungie wants, even though it’s exactly what a lot of the community is expecting. I’d personally love to see a D3 just like most of the D2 player base, but that’s clearly not the direction Bungie is aiming for. I want to speculate a bit — if we *do* get a D3, I don’t think it’ll be the game the community actually wants. Here’s why: --- ### 1. **The Engine Debate is Overblown** The talk around the game engine is a bit much. If Bungie makes a D3, it’s going to run on the same engine — or a modified version of it — because that’s what they know. Building an entirely new engine is *extremely* expensive and time-consuming. People asking for Unreal Engine 5 don’t realize the amount of system engineers Bungie would need to hire just to get up to speed. Think engine issues are bad now? Imagine them with a dev team unfamiliar with a new engine. That transition would be *brutal*. --- ### 2. **The Reset Illusion** Sure, a full reset will bring that exciting “fresh grind” energy for a bit. But very quickly, players will start noticing what’s *missing*. Subclasses, abilities, weapons — all the things we’ve spent years building up in D2 won’t carry over. Bungie won’t bring everything back right away. They’ll launch D3 with the bare minimum and slowly build up again. And just like that, we’ll be begging for D2 content in D3. --- ### 3. **Recycled Content & Barebones Launch** Expect recycled areas and a thin story at launch — just like D1 and vanilla D2. I remember starting D2 and thinking, “This feels like a regular DLC, not a new game.” We’ve seen this before. A true "new game" feeling isn’t guaranteed just because of a new number in the title. --- ### 4. **What Players Want But Won’t Get Right Away** Players want D3 because they’re craving systemic change — a fresh grind and major overhauls. But big changes are hard to pull off in a live-service model. Bungie can’t afford to overhaul every system all at once. Most of their dev budget post-launch will go toward keeping the content pipeline going — not reinventing every mechanic. Think about *Forsaken* — it was a banger because it came after Bungie shipped a barebones base game, got ROI, then reinvested. D3 will likely follow the same MVP (Minimum Viable Product) model. Yes, we *want* a launch like *Forsaken*, but that’s just not how live-service funding works. --- ### 5. **New Player Experience Still Lacking** This is one area where Bungie *could* improve massively in D3 — and frankly, *should*. D2’s onboarding for new players is a mess. In-game LFG helps a little, but it’s not enough. The game doesn’t explain anything well. No numbers on perks, no guidance on what to do, and a huge disconnect between regular play and the endgame. New players get wrecked in endgame content unless they use meta builds — and they have no clue which builds those even are. --- ### 6. **D3 Isn’t Necessary — These Changes Can Happen in D2** Almost everything I mentioned above? It could be done in D2 right now. Bungie has a solid sandbox — they just need to improve the storytelling and new player experience. Even the price point needs to reflect the value better. I think the full game (all content + latest DLC) should always be around $100. And even that’s a big ask. But for returning players and newcomers alike, it would make onboarding way easier and more worth it. --- TL;DR: A D3 might sound exciting, but unless Bungie radically changes how they build and support the game, we’re looking at the same cycle again — new coat of paint, same underlying issues. Most of what we want from D3 could actually be fixed in D2. --- So please don’t just dump on Marathon and say, “They should’ve made D3 instead.” That doesn’t move the conversation forward. Instead, let’s talk about this: What would Destiny 3 actually bring to the table that Destiny 2 can’t do right now? And more importantly — could Bungie realistically add those things into D2 without massively disrupting the current game? Let’s keep it focused and constructive.

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  • Edited by Duke: 4/25/2025 2:09:39 PM
    Big things for me: 1. Opportunity to break off old gen consoles, which are absolutely hampering progress, or at the very least holding us back from having more of the game available to us. 2. Refresh. You addressed this...albeit poorly IMO lol. A reset does not automatically mean we end up begging for D2 content. It also doesn't mean we immediately look around and say X is missing in a NEW game, especially when comparing it to one that's been running for 7 years. At least, the people of us with functioning brains won't do that because we understand context. I understand there would likely still be plenty of dumb people who think the sequel should release with as much content as the 7 year long game, but hey, you can't fix stupid, and you certainly can't let it keep you from making a new game. 3. It also lets them undo a bunch of bad system decisions, like AE and abilities 3.0, or bad modes, like Gambit, and either iterate on them, or just ditch them completely, without having to worry about how it effects a live game that already utlizes that content/system. At the end of the day, a D3 lets them tear down as much as they want and build back as much as they want. We as players are all going to quibble and disagree about which things need to go and which need to stay, but a new title allows them the flexibility to do stuff like that and it not impact a live, current game. It also allows them to recenter on their target audience, lean heavier into the things they want the game to be and further away from things they don't. Could they do a lot of this with D2? Sure, but they couldn't do all of it and they certainly couldn't take their time with it the way they could a D3.

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