Derpy players, like my bad self, have had enuff of being fodder. It's miserable. The activity needs mass, and when the whole situation is run by a small core of sweats, we jus don't engage. And all that is left is the hardcore. And then they get angry cos they can't farm & face nothing but other sweats. The problem? It's not the derps. It's not the sweats. It's Lord Bungo's implementation. How to solve this? I dunno. I'm not a dev. I'm not getting payed a silly wage, so it's not on me. I'm not a Bungle employee. But I can tell you this. PvP is a crumbling mess & with Marathon jus around the corner, I don't see a solution anytime soon.. Maybe that's what they want.. slide the hardcore over to Marathon & let Destiny stew in its own juice.. Who even cares at this point..