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4/23/2025 2:53:52 PM
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Lobby balancing has no place in PvP, especially COMP

Case and point. Im punished for being a good player cause I'm expected to carry people that are bad at the game. Comp was sbmm for majority of this episode and then reverted back to rank based (as it should be). But because of the sbmm and the lobby balancing, all of the 0.1s to 1.3s that are in ascendant (when they shouldnt be there in the first place) are then put on my team cause of my in-game elo to "balance the match". And I cant move up in my rank because they throw the match or the other semi good players get put on the other team. Forcing me into a 1v3 or 2v3 EVERY GAME. And before anyone says "pvp dead" or "you get what you deserve", if your offended by this post, then I just might be talking about you. Lobby balancing = SBMM and thats a fact. And its not only killing comp and trials, but 6s too. For all players, not just good players
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  • Lobby balancing isn’t the same as sbmm but I said that combination would kill what was left of pvp years ago when bungie first put it in the game. Unfortunately I was right

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  • Until they turn it off. And then it will have a place.

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  • First of all, SBMM and Lobby Balancing are separate things. SBMM determines the Lobby. Lobby Balancing determines the teams. So far as I know, Bungie uses a combination of SBMM and RBMM (Rank-Based) in Competitive. I find it hard to believe that "0.1" k/d players are capable of making it to Ascendant, even with the small SBMM component that is present. Ultimately, you control this situation. Bungie gives you the option of playing with a dedicated team. You don't have to play with random players - you can pick your teammates.

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    • Team balance absolutely belongs. Even 8 year olds know this when at recess using school yard pick-em.

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      • Edited by l Xemnas: 4/24/2025 1:52:49 PM
        One of my matches in trials this week, i had a teammate go 0-9. We won the match 5-3. I get people have bad games, i do. But when i looked at his match history, i saw he regularly finishes with 0 kills. All i could think was bungie really hates me.

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        • I fully understand what you are saying. As a 1.1 K/D player, I've made my peace with never getting to Ascendant, but I've been watching Panduh's recent series about getting the emblem, and lobby balancing has been working against him. (Although it's pretty much confirmed to me that Destiny 2 PvP brings out the worst in people, some toxic stuff happening in his twitch chat). I will say, however, just remember that those guys getting slaughtered in your matches are fully aware that they are getting screwed over, too. Do you think they are having a fun time? I guarantee you they are not. I think we are suffering a severe bleed of players, so the available pool is wildly all over the place, in terms of pure skill. I understand your frustration, but at this point in the games lifecycle, we might just have to make our peace with it. Sorry bruv.

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          • Edited by Auronio: 4/24/2025 6:35:21 AM
            My last comp match was against a team of two bronze and one gold ranked player, the latter of whom proudly showing his glorious title (happened to play nightstalker/ace/shottie). To my knowledge glorious requires at least platinum rank. My team including me all bronze. Miraculously we lost. Please explain how that is SBMM and why that was fair.

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            • Case and point.. You're the problem. Your attitude puts people off playing and you can't get better if you don't play. You also can't attract players with attitudes like yours around. For PvP to move forward it needs a way of attracting more players. A tiered system (maybe with a combo of Rank and K/D) might work better where lesser skilled players play against each other so they can get in some practice and not get stomped or harassed. You Elite guys can duke it out amongst each other until others can move up to challenge.

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              • You are a top .5% Trials player. Quit btchn. You’re too talented to cry like a bottom tier player.

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                • 1.3 s can get to ascendant. That stat doesn’t tell the whole story

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                  • Don’t worry about it, it’s a pve game… I never understand why y’all don’t play games made for PvP

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                      This is why I never load up crucible just to play anymore. Its either 2 awful players on my team or 2 awful players on my team and I'm fighting 5.0 fresh accounts that "def aren't cheating bro" carrying a console kid / .9 KD. The amount of .8s I've seen in ascendant 0 lobbies is nutts.

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                      • I agree doubles solo que.. perfect example. 1 good player 1 shitty vs 1 good player 1 shitty. Matchmaking is set to some weird combo thing this season. You want to go ascendent prepare to carry your team mates. I'm wondering if it's based off player score stat emblem tracks like if your over 30 then you will carry under 30 you will be carried.

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                        • Your matches aren't even close to 50/50 win loss chance. Hence, we can [i]quantitatively[/i] say these aren't [i]skill based or lobby balanced[/i] Your rationale that this is skill based is because of two bad teammates?

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                            Bruh I feel your pain…. Bungie does everything than can to cater to these bums.

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                            • Jake just deal with it, you’re playing Destiny lol

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                              • Okay jake get on your warlock in ascendent and we will take a peak at your stats and wins after.

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