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The 3 Heresies

So very simple post. We want to know what the act of Heresy was in this Episode (Thus its title). At first, people thought the Heresy was going to be the resurrection of Oryx, similar to how Savathune rejected the sword logic, but as it turns out, Oryx is the only character within the story who has yet to commit and act of Heresy. 1. The First Heresy This was committed all the way back in the Taken King, and was performed by Eris and Ourselves (Rhe Knife). This first Heresy was twofold. Eris used the Sword Logic to enact revenge which in it of itself is contradictory to that of the Sword Logic. This though, was a less act of Heresy compared to what happens later, and has continued to happen since. The active rejection of Oryx’s throne. This single decision goes against Oryx’s own notions and rules, and much like Savathune, rejects the Sword Logic. We create the Touch of Malice, and we deny its usage, becoming the Hives Bane as opposed to the next Taken King (Queen). This act has continued even all the way through Season of the Witch where Eris becomes a contradiction, as the Hive God of Vengeance, and continued to reject Oryx’s mantle, despite Xivus excitement. 2. The Second Heresy. This happened right after the events of the Taken King. When Xivu Arath had learned of her brother’s passing, like the spoiled brat she is, she went on the War Path against us. This eventually led to her subservience to the Witness who Oryx chides this episode but that’s beside the point. The Sword Logic rejects Vengeance. To have sentiment for those who have died is to pity the weak, and the weak deserve no pity because the weak deserve to Die. Oryx was weak by his own Logics standard, and so, Xivu Arath having sentiment and wanting vengeance is an active denial of her own logic. 3. The Final Heresy. Savathune becoming a Lightbearer. This is rather simple. Unlike the Guardian and Eris denying the Throne of Oryx, as outside forces, she denies the Logic that defines her entire being. Sure, being the Hives God of Trickery requires her to be cunning and a trickster, but she also needs tithes through the death of those who wage war against her. As such, by rejecting this Logic, and rejecting the Deep, turning to the Light, was against her very origin. A heresy so grand, that she cannot return from it. She can never go back to the deep. That being said, we can Appreciate the fact that despite being a liar, she is not a Hypocrite.
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  • Yup the vibe is all 3 Hive Gods are committing heresy one way or another this episode.

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  • If the sword logic rejects vengeance then Oryx was the first to break rank. When he came here for vengeance over us killing Crota. Then Savathun by rejecting the Worm for the Light And Xivu for wanting vengeance for Oryx. The three Heresies would be the three hive gods themselves by this reasoning.

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    • The hearsayses the Hersies the Hersiest hersey of Hearsays

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      • Guardians became Heritics in Witch Queen, to kill a Ghost, a creation of our God, is heretical, thier choice of lightbearer is no concern of ours , it not ours to question the light , only to protect it and destroy those who would snuff it out!!!!! But we have been heretics ever since we communed with the first splinter on europa, that girl most of the Trials weapons are named after was right to kill darkness users, even Elsie says we are eventually Corrupted by it, no matter how well we can balance it now And Savathun saw the fallacy of the sword logic along time ago, she saw the power guardians weld , with the free will to use it has they see, not burdened to a logic or a worm Xivu will learn the same truth , or Die by the bomb logic she denies, I would welcome her into the light , same for Oryx if a ghost chose him ,because I am a firm believer , that your past doesn't determine what you could be

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        • Why are we going back to Io and the tree of Silver Wings? Who is in the Sunless Cell? How did Ghaul evade the Last City's censors? Where is Ahsa? Where is the Conductor? Where is Skolas? Where is the Gardener? I think you're jumping the gun a little bit 😇👍💠.

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          • I know people are quoting oryx for calling the witness a charlatan, but it’s established in the final shape that the three hive gods were working with the witness - long before we killed the Taken King Even before our collapse. Oryx may have been unwittingly working with the Witness, but we know Savathun and Xivu were already working with it.

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