[quote]Battlefield is the illusion of action. There really isn't a lot of gun fights going on. The spectacle is amazing but an exciting game, Battlefield is not.[/quote] Are you high? There's 38 vs 38 modes where there's 38 chances of a gun fight happening. I've been in some serious gun fights already and some nasty bayonet charges. I love how I can destroy the buildings and play as other classes and actually watch my bullets curve due to the distance and so on. The realism is there. Also, they aren't basing their game in some futuristic world like every damn shooter we have now, meaning they're using known guns. It's pretty nice. Also, they have dedicated servers and their balancing is on point. I'm getting my money's worth with BF, not Destiny.

Ultimately it's your opinion so you're not wrong I'm just sharing my experience in BF. Like I said, the spectacle is incredible but a lot of the time you aren't shooting anyone. I guess it's because I've cut my teeth on fast paced shooters over the years like Halo. The maps are smaller and the action is more intense. Though BF is pretty darn awesome, it's not my cup of tea most of the time.

Battfield one is probably gonna get game of the year

That may be true but for me it's way too boring. I don't find it fun to go long periods between fights. Just my opinion of course. Others are free to enjoy the game if they like it.

When shit goes down in bf, it goes down hard Many of the people who complain about the long running just dont understand the spawn system

We just had 3 bombers overtake E- they bombed about 10 people out and destroyed the tank. Our team of 7 assaulted and owned E with a blaze. Yah, no gun fights I guess.

You forgot to mention the horse that managed to survive it all