Not any worse than the two doddlers on your team getting there just in time for the team wipe... "OMG Wait! I'm almost there!..." -Mr. Responsible(for the the big L) I play with lots of people that are too involved in their current action to realize their team mates have been yelling at them for a minute that heavy is coming.... then when it comes it's more important than the win... because bounties. :D I am never within 10m of heavy. I tell my friends all the time that they don't have to hug around the box... and much of the time there are several people not ready... even though the other team was, pulled immediately, and are hurrying over to wipe your butt. Even if they aren't they're getting in a better position than us sitting in the heavy spawn. I doubt that people that can't keep track of the spawn sway the direction of the match that much. I prefer to wipe the other team and take their heavy... it's easy... because of people waiting for one more, or are all bunched into one square meter.