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Edited by TSM Blissful:
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You can fix a lot of the unhappiness in trials of Osiris with one change, no revives available. I find it odd that destiny wants to make the most competitive game mode possible but then fills it with every non competitive thing there is. Any other competitive game doesn't have revives, Counter Strike , COD search and destroy, Rainbow Six siege, and Battlefield. Destiny is unique in a lot of ways and I love it for that but you have to be able to draw from what other games did so well and implement it in your game other than being prideful and trying introduce your own very flawed game mode. Also, you won't have to worry about people saying you "copied" another game because the satisfaction will be threw the roof. Fruit for that that I hope you seriously consider. Also make it 4v4 not 3v3. Also to fix the camping in the back of spawns you need to put an objective. Whether it's capping a relic or rift an objective would fix a lot of problems
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Trials is the least competitive pvp game mode on destiny. Light lvl is enabled. Not competitive at all. Revives, not competitive at all. Supers, not competitive at all, heavy round, not competitive at all. Trials is easily the worst pvp I have ever played in any video game since I began playing video games.
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4 v 4 may cause disruption: fireteams may become unsettled as they need an extra member to participate. Also, it makes game far easier to carry - for a start. Also, I don't want to die and spend the next 5min watching a teammate try and clutch an impossible counter without reviving. However, I understand your point but I doubt that you have thought it through with much thought.
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Don't take offense to this but by your reply I'm guessing destiny is the first/only FPS shooter you've played. Other wise you would see why trials is a very flawed game mode.
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I have put a lot of thought into it and what in saying is exactly why CSGO is the most popular FPS for years now. It's why Search and destroy is so popular in COD. If you don't wanna look at a teammate try to clutch then don't die. Also, 4v4 wouldn't cause unrest in fire teams not make it easier to carry adding an extra person would make it that much harder to carry a team.
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Then make a different gamemode altogether. Don't change Trials beyond recognition, it's pointless. There are more guardians, such as myself, who do Trials carries and think of reasonable thoughts to make it fair such as the following: - Alternate spawnings so rounds are dependent on the side you spawn - Remove heavy round or at least reduce ammo gained per crate. - Reduce timer for special ammo so gunfights are more evenly fought amongst primaries. - Add the chance every week (as the official map) as random maps every game so it isn't boring to play the same map all weekend. - Capture point should take longer to give opponents chance to reach the point before you finish capturing it. - Crucible balancing altogether. - Revives should take longer altogether (Alpha Lupi shouldn't be able to revive teammates while running). - Revives shouldn't provide the reviver an Overshield as it varies dynamics in games too drastically. There we go! Rather than changing the gamemode, let's fix issues first before we settle rules like you are suggesting. [spoiler]And yes, again, I do play other FPS games more than others and just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't have a clue what I'm on about.[/spoiler]
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People will continue to leave destiny and I don't like saying that but it will happen
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I don't disagree, they do need to add new content. However, I think they need to focus on PvE a little more - as that's what the biggest rants are on about. Check out my Inferno Nightfall idea.
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Edited by Nevenity: 1/22/2016 6:39:01 PMThis isn't the only FPS game I've played by all means, I go back right to Halo 3 and CoD. To clarify, I've played a lot more Trials than you. Having looked at your stats, no offence, but I can tell that you haven't experienced Destiny competitively having seen you only played 177 games of Trials (which isn't much at all). Your K/D isn't tremendously high. Trust me on this, 4 v 4 Trials with no revives will just be hellish and boring.
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I have a 1.3 KD and 1200 kills in trials which is enough to draw a sample size from. Where as in COD and battlefield my KD is 1.7 and 2.1 in BFH respectively. That's because the skill gaps in those games are vastly larger than in destiny. And if you think that it would be hellish and boring why do you think so many people play CSGO and Rainbow six siege and why so many people are leaving destiny. It's because the game modes in those games work.
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Your evidence stating Destiny is easier makes no sense, what so ever! If you have a lower K/D in Destiny, it implies it is more difficult. Don't vary a game - invent a new one. That's all there is to it. Play more Trials, try it solo and then determine whether it has no teamwork.
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And by no means am I calling you wrong or me right I respect your opinion truly and 100% see where you're coming from but maybe you wouldn't be oppose to like an SRL type event where it was the featured playlist for like a week or so
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Yes, that I do agree with. I just disagree with you changing Trials like you were offering: otherwise, I agree with you. Now this conversation is, to be honest, pointless. However, I would recommend you make a new post featuring a [i][u][b]new[/b][/u][/i] game :D
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That awkward moment when I have a higher ELO than you in trials lol And my point being in this game it's very easy to be good
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WTF does ELO mean? Listen, combat score doesn't mean a thing. K/D and time spent is what matters if you are trying to argue your point. I quote, "They need a capture point so people don't camp". If you played that enough, you'd know that if you played it enough when the round goes overtime. That awkward moment when you realise you don't know what you're on about and somebody points it out. Lol.
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I realize there is a cap point at the end of a match that actually brings people out of their spawn. I'm suggesting this radical idea of having an objective throughout the ENTIRE match which I know hurts your and others brains to comprehend. People love objectives. It's as simple as that
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People do love objectives and the search and destroy, but rather than destroy a gamemode the community loves (which is the closest gamemode to competitive), maybe add a whole new game. It's simple as that. No debate. [spoiler]For future reference, never say you're better than somebody or that they don't know what they're on about: it's rude and arrogant. Just thought I'd let you know. [/spoiler]
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Thanks for the life lesson I'll be sure to remember that one, amazing in my 20 years on this earth I have never known that but I am now enlightened. Thank you based darkest gaming. You are our only hope, a beacon of light in the dark if you will
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Edited by Nevenity: 1/22/2016 7:11:26 PMI don't know whether that is an intentional mock or not. Either way, I'll choose to ignore it as this is side-tracked from the topic.
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If they made a completely new game mode with an objective and 4v4 I guarantee you it would get more praise and love than trials. That's all I'm trying to say
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Yes, that's [i]my [/i]suggestion. You're initial suggestion was to "fix" Trials, implying you wanted to change Trials.
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I see your point and they should try that just for 1 week just like how iron banner is being changed every now and then. Also like how that one week where we had a map rotation instead of just one
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Right? Like it wouldn't hurt to test it as a weekly crucible playlist and then monitor the feedback
