I think that the reason 9/10 guardians act like idiot is cause they are, but you are definitely right, many haven't done CE or VoG. the new players would want to run the old raids, but all the veterans would find it boring quickly. To avoid that Bungie would need to seriously rework the mechanics and at that point they might as well make a new raid. Gimme a sec while a read the rest of your novel real fast. . . "Oryx is the most complex raid, but vog is the most fun" Opinion They would definitely have to change mechanics! Don't you at all find VoG a little old by now? A little to easy? I agree that loot drops suck. Bungie just opened a magical portal to Destiny in the bottom of my toilet. I would wash off that Anguish of Drystan before you use it. . . although I don't know why anyone would in the first place.