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originally posted in: Why are you against weed?
Edited by The Arxfiend: 10/17/2015 6:20:08 PM
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Exactly, like caffeine. If it wasn't addictive, why do so many argue for its legalization with a passion, and some idiocy.
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  • Edited by BKU Mako: 10/17/2015 6:26:50 PM
    Because it's medically useful? Because they don't blindly follow the thing in front of them? Because they did their research on it and found disturbing truths? Sure, some people are fanatical about it. You know what else people are fanatical about? Religion. That's still legal, and makes MUCH less sense. And has infinitely more deaths to its name.

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  • I admit it has medical use. But I am against recreational usage because it effects bystanders against their will, and I have been in several accidents with people under the effects of only cannabis. Including a 75 degree turn into my rear, then threatening me with a knife. But religion has surprisingly few deaths compared to resource conflict. Should we make resources illegal too. I'm Athiest, but I have to say, Anti-thiest sure make it seem like an anti-god religion.

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  • As far as deaths go, there are literally ZERO attributed to cannabis (only) ingestion. Any deaths blamed on it are a result of medication interactions, or its current legal status. Were it readily available, there wouldn't be violence over it.

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  • Ingestion yes. Except for choking on the smoke, which is slightly thicker than normal tobacco smoke.

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  • Which also hasn't killed anyone. The worst that can happen with that is you'll pass out and your airway will reopen. Allergic reaction, maybe, but that's a LOT more rate than you'd think... cannabis is hypoallergenic.

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  • People have actually come very close to death by choking on the smoke. If someone wasn't there, it would have killed said people.

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  • That is 100% false, ask any doctor, EMT, or field medic. You CANNOT die from "choking" on a hit, as there is NOTHING obstructing the airway that wouldn't disappate shortly. As I stated, the WORST that can happen is that they'll pass out and wake up with a headache and sore throat. If the throat is overly-irritated by the smoke, it may, in fact, close off. However, it WILL reopen, and breathing WILL resume shortly after loss of consciousness. This occurs because, when the throat constricts, the majority of people panic. By panicking, they are, unknowingly, making the problem worse. The trick is to relax and practice diaphragm control (slow, controlled breaths from your stomach region. Even if it doesn't work initially, keep trying until your mind and body calm down a little. It WILL end. Let me reiterate: IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DIE FROM "CHOKING" ON A HIT. That isn't to say that some dumb shit out there won't seal off a gas mask, get it rolling, and have a hell of a bad time, but if they can get the mask off, they WILL, eventually, be just fine.

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  • The smoke sinks in the lungs. This means that there is a bunch of chemicals sitting in the bottom, not completely blocking, but slowing oxygen flow in those areas. Eventually, this buildup gets too great, and the body goes into a panic-breathing. This turns into coughing, and in some cases, CPR or other means of forced breathing are required.

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  • False. You obviously don't know how respiration works, and I'm not going to explain it to you. Go take a CPR class and ask the instructor about that. *Eagle Scout, EMT training, ex-lifeguard, ex-army*

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  • Eagle scout, and experience. I have had to deliver CPR to someone choking on a blunt once. It's fairly rare, but it happens. It's the same way people choke on carbon monoxide, but works much slower.

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  • Then you're probably using it incorrectly, and did more harm than good. NEVER do CPR on ANYONE without a physical obstruction, unless they've been unconcious for more than 30 seconds without breathing restoring naturally, or you witnessed them have a heart attack. Doing CPR on someone who was "choking" on a blunt is flat uncalled for. They'll cough like hell. They might throw up. They'll be fine. Never do that again. You could end up with a lawsuit for broken ribs, if you're doing it correctly, and a wrongful death suit, if you do it wrong.

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  • You say that like I don't know what to do. They flat out had no solid inhalation, just desperate attempts, even after passing out. Very weak coughing. I simply did a mild force 3 times before airways finished the job.

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  • Edited by BKU Mako: 10/17/2015 10:31:33 PM
    If it cleared up that easily, then normal breathing would have resumed shortly. I'm flat telling you, you were in the wrong. Don't do CPR until their pulse starts to fade. You can stop their heart. Also, with that description, all he had happen is that he took too large of a hit and caused his diaphragm to spasm. He was fine.

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  • The charts that say marijuana is as addictive/more than heroin are [b][i][u]COMPLETELY FALSE[/u][/i][/b] heroin/opium addiction causes physical withdrawals that can result in death if addiction is severe enough; Weed is only psychologically addictive; Any damn thing you can think of is psychologically addictive on some level

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  • I just said that. It's like caffeine as far as addiction goes.

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  • No caffeine also has physical withdrawals tho far less severe. Marijuana has 0 physical withdrawals

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  • Caffeine is addictive because it gives a rush. Marijuana is addictive because it gives a dull. There are no withdrawals.

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  • Caffeine has withdrawal symptoms. Fairly serious ones, too. It IS physically addictive, and therefore a poor point of comparison.

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  • Edited by DarthBrando: 10/17/2015 7:27:48 PM
    Caffeine causes migraines an lethargy and irritability and hypersensitivity/awareness as well as in some cases tinnitus(ringing of ears) when you stop using it after developing a physical dependance to it. Ceasing the use of marijuana causes zero negative side effects physically as a result of stopping the use of the substance

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  • Ceasing Marijuana use causes added stress, as you used it as an escape, among other psychological effects. Marijuana is a psychological drug.

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  • It causes no [b][i][u]physical[/u][/i][/b] withdrawals; Therefore It is not as addictive as caffeine or tobacco let alone heroine or cocaine as the drug commission claims.

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  • People suffer from anxiety, Grouchiness, cravings, or loss of appetite.

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  • Edited by DarthBrando: 10/18/2015 1:29:44 AM
    Anxiety depends on how anxious/paranoid you are when not using weed and you dont get more anxiety than you had before you smoked it. Irritability and grouchy; never had that issue; ild say thats the person's attitude normally Also those are not physical withdrawal side effects.

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  • Actually, anxiety is increased because the person has no escape. Anxiety usually leads to irritation. And I noticed that you avoided loss of appetite/cravings.

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  • The appetite and food cravings and anxiety return to the levels they were [b][i][u]BEFORE[/u][/i][/b] the person used the drug; they do not increase above that though. I know this first hand over long term and short term use btw.

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