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				Yea I have. And hard light. Both of those I would say are the exception to the autos suck rule. When I run suros or hard light I will usually go 2+ kd, so if I stopped using abilities I would say it would probably be a solid 1.5.
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	Really. Just think of how many shotguns, thorns, and last words would outgun you.
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	You just need to keep your distance and put use the terrain to block incoming shots. You can't just run around like you would with a hand canon you have to use more tactics.
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	Any way you look at it the ttk is better for thorn and last word. Statistically you would have to suck so much to lose to Suros in a gunfight you probably shouldn't be in crucible.
 
										 
					 
		    