Lol that's such a ridiculous argument. I have two that are fully maxed out. I don't need to use it to win, and when I do use it it saps the fun out of crucible. Everyone likes different guns- most people are just more concerned with winning than diversifying weapon choices. I'd rather do both.

Point is, thorn is fine as it is. I personally use other guns more when I do pvp. No need to nerf it because you get killed by it more frequently than you'd like.

That's not why though. It would be great if it was a simple issue of me getting killed by it. That's not the problem. The problem is that thorn has the highest reliable (meaning at any range the weapon has non falloff and every time (you don't need to hipfire, etc)) time to kill in the game. Two shots at .36 seconds. That's extremely fast. This, coupled with high range, good aim assist, fast reload, high mag size, and great stability makes it a weapon with literally no downsides. Every gun should have its squishy areas. Thorn doesn't. It has an A+ in every subject, so to speak. That's why it should, in my opinion, be nerfed. It's a fact that the weapon excels beyond all other primaries in the crucible barring TLW and Red Death (though it is considerably better as a general rule), and I believe that's an unbalancing force in the crucible. I want it to be nerfed, which will allow a larger focus on variety in the crucible. I disagree with a 2 gun multiplayer. That's why. Not cuz I'm butthurt :)

If they nerf it, they should only nerf its PvP version. Leave its PvE stats alone.