I'm planning to do a little information gathering and start a discussion speculating on the Iron Banner's Demise possibly becoming a new PvE favourite. Right now the Confluence is almost untouchable, mostly because of the great stats and high stability. Full auto is more of a gimmick than anything else, as the same effect can be attained by repeatably mashing the trigger. I'm not quite Rank 5 yet, so I haven't got my hands on the Demise, but I was able to compare the Demise stats with Confluence Demise has: Slightly lower Rate of Fire Moderately higher Impact Much further Range Considerably less Stability Slightly slower Reload Oh, 4 less bullets in the magazine and no Solar Burn. The stats are great, but they're no Confluence. Here's the thing though, you're able to reroll the two main perks and 3 changeable perks with Demise, so you could have possible combinations like; Perfect Balance (Stability) Firefly (Precision Explosions) Zen Movement or Persistence (Stability) Crowd Control (Kills grant Bonus Damage) is another possibility. Sure you'd have to get a lucky roll, but if you're like me, and willing to invest 2 Motes of Light again and again for the right combination, this gun could quite possibly become a PvE monster. Save your Motes and aim for this weapon. The Impact alone on this [b]Scout Rifle[/b] should sell it. Thoughts?