To be quite honest, without trying to sound too negative, the pre-production phase of 4 months in addition to the estimated 12 month actual development phase is not going to work out for the destiny community. I mean atleast they finally understood that we are still there and we still want destiny content, but i am almost certain that their thin lineup doing pre-production simply because they keep trying to revive the already dead horse, which is marathon, is not going to be enough. They keep stating that we should all support each other in the destiny and the marathon community. How about we, the paying customers, decide which one of the thousands of games that are available to all of us, we want to buy and play. It wasnt just the destiny community that clearly screamed into bungies face, that marathon aint it. The literal whole internet did not like that game (except for certain "journalists"). Its artstyle is hit or miss, the gamemode is niche, the gameplay is niche. The entire game fundamentally (sadly) is not fun. And we play games to have fun. Atleast some of us do. Please realize that the marathon situation isnt remotely comparable to the rocky destiny 2 launch (which was instead fixable). D2 launched with many flaws, yes. BUT the fundamental game was great. The looter shooter aspect, the gunplay, the general gameplay, the artstyle, the beloved universe had a strong foundation, the story was rich and the pvp/pve combination with raids etc. in the first person perspective is completely unique. Everyone knew what was wrong with D2. Mainly it was random rolls were needed, we didnt like double primary and we needed content. Quality content. We needed grind. We needed depth. All that was fixed with forsaken. You can not translate that to marathon because the entire fundament of that game is flawed. Almost noone liked any of the features in that game. Bungie has already almost wasted a year of dev time trying to revive that lost cause. Now us destiny players almost lost our home but yet we still are asked to remain patient. I do not believe that there will be a massive destiny community anymore when the unvaulting is set to happen. Most of us have already found a new home, the other remaining players will mostly follow soon aswell. We saw how tiny passionate groups of devs have used AI to do all the unvaulting in a fraction of time already. Not triple A polish, not bug free, not perfect by any means and also not integrated into the live version but that should not be THAT big of an issue. In what world does a former behemoth studio like Bungie plan to ship deleted content which only needs some lighting updates, integration problems solved and bug fixing in a timespan of 16 months? We do not need perfection to the tiniest detail. We need quick results to open the door for future NEW content. The timeline suggests that either only a tiny deveolper lineup will execute the unvaulting or they are trying way too hard on perfecting unnecessary details while pumping money into marathon. Even if there is a D3 on the horizon. That bridges gap must be closed. By supporting the current game with content. Thats how live service works. Bringing back old stuff is not going to bridge the potential 5-6 year gap when a D3 launch would be potentially possible. I know, i know, pre-production doesnt need a lot of staff, i read all that, i call that bs, sorry. I simply think that the unvaulting needs to happen in the next months to have a measurable effect on the franchise. The pre-production phase just feels like another "we need all the remaining devs trying to revive marathon" which will never be a sustainable game, type of excuse. Bringing back old content which partly already got updated to the new engine should not take over a year. It simply should not. In addition, is bringing back all the old stuff even enough for us long time players? It is not. Frankly i played at those times, i played all the content every day. And most of the remaining players who are or were hardcore D2 players will be the same. It will be nice for some to revisit those activities but its nothing to bring respectable amounts of new players or retention back and it will also not fix any of that broken trust if it will happen in 2028. Slapping a bandaid over that flesh wound will merely ease the pain. I doubt that the general sentiment will change drastically. And that would be fine if new content would quickly follow. But i only see a "[u]maybe[/u] D1 remaster in 2029/2030 and a [u]maybe[/u] D3 in 2032" Like i stated in my first sentence, not trying to be negative nancy but my rose tinted glasses have been off for a while now and thats just an objective observation by me. Even if they outsource a Destiny 1 remake in the meantime, that wont be done until 2029/2030 at the earliest. An actual remake or remaster with a pc port would actually take time. Bungie you are serving a live service audience here, remember the D1 "content drought"? That was like 7 months. People who are used to content flow will leave and not turn back. Even 7 months were too long for a majority of players. Just my 2 cents as someone who was there from the beginning and still loves the franchise while objectively losing hope for its future if Bungie keeps trying to make us help them reviving a dead horse instead of letting it die in favor of the billion dollar franchise that we all loved...