Control: Sweaty, Laggy, ability spam Clash: Control x2 Trials: Unbalanced but fun :) Comp: Sweaty, unbalanced but fun :)

Trials and Competitive are full of cheaters. Quickplay modes are 50/50 when it comes to the experience since they have SBMM which is horrible for quickplay modes. This is a problem is multiplayer games in general. The devs don't understand their audience and cheaters enjoy ruining people hobbies because they believe they are superior.

As a casual in an average ELO, I've been queueing alot more than in my recent past. Maybe it's just friends not really queueing, or maybe it's the fact every match feels different than the last. I see a few longstanding issues that have been a slight plague in the past and will likely continue to be forever. They are as follows- Suspend Slow Freeze Blind Suppress Turrets/Buddies Generalized Ability Spam These are my primary gripes with PVP. They're mostly subclass verbage that create a HUD advantage, OR restrict movement. As I've said in the past, movement is one of the cornerstones of skill expression in Destiny 2. Anything that reduces that expression is simply unhealthy for a competitive sandbox to thrive. Additionally, HUD advantages have no counterplay, and are thereby unhealthy for a competitive sandbox. Blind and Suppress obviously create a HUD advantage. It's problematic simply because there is no true counterplay. Slow, Freeze and Suspend are problematic as they also have severely reduced counterplay, in addition to reducing movement. The game becomes baiting abilities out that reduce your skill expression, yet simultaneously lower the floor of competition for your opponent. Turrets are an entirely separate theory debate. The first issue is they enhance player DPS output via AI. This is problematic since 2 classes have no means to accessing them. The second issue is counterplay. Barring a Bleakwatcher Turret, there are no means of counterplay other than kiting and retreating from an enemy. This severely manipulates pacing, another foundational aspect of skill expression in a PVP gamemode. Ultimately, all of these issue are very AI dominant. AI Damage via Turrets. HUD reduction via AI. Movement reduction via AI. They could address this two different ways. #1. Eliminate them entirely (not the healthiest approach short term, but would be quality long term). #2. Severely increase the cooldown of abilities that are centered around these concepts (unlikely given the confirmed state of D2). In the end, all these abilities do is counter any potential Destiny has as a competitive Shooter. Which is a shame, because the movement and gunplay is still bar none.

On console it’s great. No cheats or lags or anything like that. Those who say cheaters are also on console it’s a skill issue.

Go into Comp. It's worse.

Should have been removed years ago.

Sure here’s my take, not worth much but scouts are too good mainly Jade but in general they are too oppressive. Pulses are also a little too hot but have to be to fight scouts. Everyone in here crying about hand cannon shotgunners like we are in trials of the nine still. Ability spam is excessive atm. Invis shouldn’t be in the game but at least it’s seen several nerfs main one being less radar. Fusions still need to not exist or at least have more downsides cus they’re free. Sidearms are also very hot, beating really anything in its range. Titans still munch on crayons and spam light melee fist of havoc like they have a blindfold on and still wipe the team. Same old same old ya know