Cmon bro, you’re making us Titan mains look bad. All classes have their strengths in PVP

Only, titans dominate in pvp, so… amazing you folks still whine and cry like children over dying in a video game

My opinion is that in pvp all characters should have the same jump and no blinks, dodges and invisibility.

Bungie ruined PVP. But The Hunter class overall has so many offensive weapon bonus and weapons enhancing exotics that boost damage and in a game that has fast ttk it’s just a spam all in itself not mention to be able light shift or break aim assist easily it makes them hard to deal with.

And yet aren't hunters generally the worst PvE class due to either lower damage than other classes or because of their survivability? If they should be the worst class in PvE, why shouldn't they be the best class in pvp? It's no different than all the exotic weapons and armor people keep saying "doesn't need X because it's a PvE/pvp weapon". For a few examples, all the exotic weapons with stats lower than the rest of their archetypes either as a whole or due to power creep would suggest they should have. * Sunshot "doesn't need" another 20-30 aim assist because it's a PvE weapon (it has 60 AA compared to all other lightweight and former lightweight hand cannons having 80-90). "Who cares about stats in PvE? Are you stupid?", and the gun gets outperformed by basically any weapon with incandescent. * Or Malfeasance having 50 compared to the 70-80 almost every 180 hand cannon has. * Ace of Spades only having 50 stability compared to the 70-80 almost every hand cannon has now BEFORE performance enhancing perks like Perpetual Motion or Slideways * Touch of Malice having only 40 aim assist (matching that of the highest tiered 150s) when ALL other 260 scouts have I think 16-23 more. People were even saying Jade Rabbit doesn't need a PvE buff or any kind of rework because it's a PVP gun, yet the exotic trait was worthless, and all it had going for it was 2 overtuned stats. Lo and behold, they gave it Shoot To Loot and Firefly (both PvE perks), an alt fire matching the worst frame of grenade launcher (micro missile), and even the alt fire is complete trash in PvE for how much time and effort it takes to fully charge it, doing only a little over 400 to the head fully charged on Master at the shooting range against Carl when a weapon like Revision Zero can get a sniper round that does over 700 every 16 crits. Hunters didn't ruin pvp. They were made for it. Even the "class identity" was practically made for it. * "Attack precision", so they should be rewarded more for properly timed and/ or accurate attacks. And precision is a huge part of gunplay, so they should naturally be better with guns. * "Damage avoidance", fast on the fly movement and dodges to throw off your aim. * "Infiltration", getting into position before anyone notices, requiring either stealth or fast movement on the class that's SUPPOSED to be the fastest but can still be outrun by the other two unless the user is on Strand and wants to waste both grenades. Get over it. If you want hunters to be "brought in line" with titans or warlocks, you need to either buff them to match hunters WITHOUT touching PvE, or you need to find a way to nerf hunters in pvp WITHOUT outright crippling them (imagine Nightstalker losing invis when it's the ONLY thing Nightstalker can build into, being the ONLY one trick pony in destiny) in either mode.

Nah lightweight handcannon spam

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lol it’s destiny 2 pvp ….name the most of it while it’s around . What is everyone going to move onto ? Especially you 24/7 sweaties

This is just going to sound a bit insane of an opinion But to me this was kinda always the plan in a game mode made for defence a hunter will always be valuable due to being able to capture points faster thanks to the speed buff they got But when they are getting pushed, it’s not that hard to push them back if it’s just a group of hunters Add titans and warlocks into the mix and well your never getting a point but that could just be me