* The only hunter melee that can OHK without any build up is weighted knife which without Athrys needs a head shot. * I can't remember the last time I've seen anyone complain about a grenade build on hunter except the few times Tripmine + YAS were good in pv, and before that was the short time skip grenades + shinobu's vow dominated * Why shouldn't dodge have a short cooldown if the only other thing it offers besides throwing off enemy aim is a reload or melee energy which is significantly reduced in pvp? * Hunter supers all have most of if not the lowest damage resistances. * And if your complaint is really about invis, blame that on the RDM rework, the fact it's literally the only thing Nightstalkers can build into since every aspect revolves around it and every Nightstalker exotic buffs it or provides more utility/ uptime with it. If that's part of your complaint, we can worry about nerfing invis when the assassin/ scout subclass starts getting some more build variety. The only titan melees that can OHK require build up, heavy melee stat investment, or an exotic. As much as I hate getting killed by OHK crutches, why shouldn't the brawler class dominate with melee attacks? My biggest complaint about titans isn't even their melee usually but ACD feedback and how that damage resistance is literally strong enough the user can tank a light and heavy attack from Spectral Blade. And warlocks tend to get most if not all the best grenade builds, have basically been named even by Bungie as the support class, and your melees? * Void can lock on to people around corners and knock them back/ into the air which reduces accuracy and aim assist * Stasis can freeze on direct hit * Every subclass has a "buddy" * 2 of those class abilities can be used (exotic necessary or otherwise) to freeze or suspend a target * Doesn't Weavewalk use up melee energy to fuel what is basically God mode? Not even titans, the "tank" class in any of their supers are that durable. * Lightning surge activates faster than most players can react and has OHK potential if enough people are within range * The only class with an air superiority build what with titans needing to hip fire with Lion Rampants (pretty sure they still need to anyway) and hunters not being able to hover in the air And hunters can still be outrun by what are supposed to be the slower classes. Now also keep in mind that supremacy is broken by default because the more crests you pick up without dying, the faster you'll get your super back. I got like 12 kills back to back earlier using only Spectral and I only needed 1-2 crests at that point. It feels more broken because it's not mayhem so you have significantly less to fight back with.