I feel for DMG( he who tweets at omelas). I hope he has a good support network. The hate and vitriol he's been bombarded with is astonishing. The fact is, they blew their load early and if youtube ads are an indicator, that's a fairly common issue. But, this isn't a hims ad, nor is it about discussing bungies recent mishaps. no, This is an address to general public of this community. Recently I made a post about changes id like to see to weapon mods, it got zero traction. Not even a pitty like. That's fine, not every idea is a winner. But you'd expect some amount if engagement. Good or bad,considering some of my proposed changes. So i put on my waders trudged out into the veritable cesspool that is this forum to see what the conversations were like and woh boy. Now, im not saying critiquing bungie is wrong, hell thats what the forums are for. Critique away. But some of the points being made are down right dumb. Do yall honestly think marathon is a threat to destiny? Truly? When you see a car dealership are your minds blown by them offering multiple models geared towards drastically different demographics? Yes, bungie is at a low point. Less staff/ assets to dedicate to developing their games. Yes, this may have played a role in the delay for the mid season update ( a free update, btw). Should they offer some stuff to the players as an "apology", probably, itd certainly buy some good will. All that said, how do you think they crawl back out of this slump? How do you think they convince Sony to invest in them further so they can bolster their development team, work on improving their engine, improve their servers, etc? Not by dropping a free mid season update, which given the 2 month delay now seems more likely to have had technical issues, thats for sure. No, they need either a massive expansion, a sequel , or a new title. D3 is years away if they are even working on it and tge next expansion is months away. So they need to drop their new title and they need it to be successful. Hell, we need it to be successful. Yes, for all the whingeing over marathon, we as fans of destiny need it to succeed as much as bungie does. Calling for boycott, hoping it fails or just calling it trash before you've even played it is utterly asinine. If marathon fails we will see some of the worst times for bungie and destiny. I know Some of you want that, want bungie to fail. I'd ask why? You really want the company that gave us some of our best gaming memories to fail? Why, because you didn't get your way? Because they put a new title ahead of a free update? Because some of the team moved on or were let go? Because they let you down? Me, I want bungie to succeed, to get back to something even remotely close to their glory days. I want marathon to blow up so they can invest in a dedicated team to further develop it. I want Sony to see them as an invaluable asset to invest in so they can continue to work on projects whether its marathon, D2 and hopefully D3 Now, am I saying bungie is beyond reproach? That they never drop the ball? Lol. No. But if you're gonna critique them, at least make sure you got sound reasoning and a valid point. [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/140397455/0/0]#Offtopic[/url], a more appropriate forum for this offtopic discussion. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic, for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]