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Edited by lettuceNcarrots:
12/15/2025 5:26:57 AM
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Patching Last Wish Cheeses
Hi Bungie, with so few people still playing Last Wish, I really think it's an opportunity to consider patching a bunch of cheeses:
1. Shortcut to Kalli off-map cheese
2. Kalli lock down cheese
3. Shuro Chi puzzle room pre-loading cheese
4. Riven "Joining Allies" wall cheese
5. Queenswalk Taken essence wall cheese (where they pass the heart through the wall of "stairs" with the carrier's death. Also, patching the way to jump over the wall.)
This way, those who have wanted to try the mechanics can have an opportunity to do so without every fireteam insisting on using the cheeses. And, you also wouldn't upset the community that much since so very few people still play Last Wish. I know speed runners will be unhappy with these suggestions, but secretly, I think they long for this day when the patches could potentially happen.
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2 Replies[quote]Hi Bungie, with so few people still playing Last Wish, I really think it's an opportunity to consider patching a bunch of cheeses: 1. Shortcut to Kalli off-map cheese 2. Kalli lock down cheese 3. Shuro Chi puzzle room pre-loading cheese 4. Riven "Joining Allies" wall cheese 5. Queenswalk Taken essence wall cheese (where they pass the heart through the wall of "stairs" with the carrier's death. Also, patching the way to jump over the wall.) This way, those who have wanted to try the mechanics can have an opportunity to do so without every fireteam insisting on using the cheeses. And, you also wouldn't upset the community that much since so very few people still play Last Wish. I know speed runners will be unhappy with these suggestions, but secretly, I think they long for this day when the patches could potentially happen.[/quote] These 'cheeses' are now part of the raids identity. Nothing stops a team who wants a legit run from doing so. The truth is most players want their loot, very few care to learn 100% legit and optimized strats. They want the path of least resistance and I don't blame them. Few people do Last Wish because most of the loot is powercrept(again). Patching this stuff would hurt the few people who truly enjoy that raid and benefit nobody.
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There is no reason to change it. If you want to run legit, run legit, if others want to cheese, let them cheese. Why yuck their yum because you dont want to find others who want to do it the same way you do?
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5 Replies[quote]those who have wanted to try the mechanics can have an opportunity to do so[/quote] This has always been possible. Get a group together, requirement is to not cheese any activities. Your group, your rules. That way you get what you want without affecting the experiences of everyone else.
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I don't agree with this, even though I found running Riven legit for Pantheon practice was quite fun. The raid is already quite long and most players that I know aren't raiding for a challenge, rather for loot or fun with friends on a weekend. There are surely groups that will, so instead of wanting the developers go back and patch holes in an activity from nearly 8 years ago, I would recommend joining those instead.
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Bro are you ok who hurt you
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blocked i hate rats
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I bet you were the tattle tale at school.
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[quote]Hi Bungie, with so few people still playing Last Wish, I really think it's an opportunity to consider patching a bunch of cheeses: 1. Shortcut to Kalli off-map cheese 2. Kalli lock down cheese 3. Shuro Chi puzzle room pre-loading cheese 4. Riven "Joining Allies" wall cheese 5. Queenswalk Taken essence wall cheese (where they pass the heart through the wall of "stairs" with the carrier's death. Also, patching the way to jump over the wall.) This way, those who have wanted to try the mechanics can have an opportunity to do so without every fireteam insisting on using the cheeses. And, you also wouldn't upset the community that much since so very few people still play Last Wish. I know speed runners will be unhappy with these suggestions, but secretly, I think they long for this day when the patches could potentially happen.[/quote] TLDR: “Teacher, you forgot to give us the pop quiz, and ask us to turn our homework assignments in”. I haven’t played in a long while, but I’m pretty sure you can still create your own “Last Wish Legit” LFG, no? Or probably not difficult to find a ton of like minded Guardians on Discord, right? But certainly even you’d agree, with the limited resources Bungie allots to D2, that there are higher priority issues to be fixed than Last Wish cheeses, no?
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Cheese strats are fine especially in the worst raid in the game. Only way I do that raid is if I cheese it granted I don't need to as I already got 1K from it.
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I bet your not fun to be around lol
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Yeah, don't expect many signatures on your "Let's Make Life Harder" petition
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Edited by Secret-Stew01: 12/16/2025 2:01:44 PMYour attempt to finding legit runners is pretty intelligent considering this is peak disguised rage bait, you are suffering a lack of authentic, elite personnel as your issue for last wish right?
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Yeah -blam!- that
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TheLastBlackKnightdisabled gamer :( - old
No. Terrible take. The number of players would drop considerably if they did that. -
2 RepliesYou don't even run last wish that often. Last time you ran that raid was in September.
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1 Reply[quote]Hi Bungie, with so few people still playing Last Wish, I really think it's an opportunity to consider patching a bunch of cheeses: 1. Shortcut to Kalli off-map cheese 2. Kalli lock down cheese 3. Shuro Chi puzzle room pre-loading cheese 4. Riven "Joining Allies" wall cheese 5. Queenswalk Taken essence wall cheese (where they pass the heart through the wall of "stairs" with the carrier's death. Also, patching the way to jump over the wall.) This way, those who have wanted to try the mechanics can have an opportunity to do so without every fireteam insisting on using the cheeses. And, you also wouldn't upset the community that much since so very few people still play Last Wish. I know speed runners will be unhappy with these suggestions, but secretly, I think they long for this day when the patches could potentially happen.[/quote] This isn't real
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[quote]Hi Bungie, with so few people still playing Last Wish, I really think it's an opportunity to consider patching a bunch of cheeses: 1. Shortcut to Kalli off-map cheese 2. Kalli lock down cheese 3. Shuro Chi puzzle room pre-loading cheese 4. Riven "Joining Allies" wall cheese 5. Queenswalk Taken essence wall cheese (where they pass the heart through the wall of "stairs" with the carrier's death. Also, patching the way to jump over the wall.) This way, those who have wanted to try the mechanics, would have an opportunity to do so without every fireteam using the cheeses. And, you also wouldn't upset the community that much since so very few people still play Last Wish. I know speed runners will be unhappy with these suggestions, but secretly, I think they long for this day when the patches could potentially happen.[/quote] Just find people to do legit riven with instead…
