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11/1/2025 2:05:13 AM
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I hate the haste modifier

Haste accelerates the power creep, I can't use a primmary scout to stun a champion in harder content because it takes too long and I'm always getting shot and losing health. Solution: use Mint Retrograde. It works, but then you don't know why players are leaving (we can't try builds because it will barely work with the current state of the game, so we have hands tied and gotta use the same old same old boring metah OP).

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  • [quote]Haste accelerates the power creep, I can't use a primmary scout to stun a champion in harder content because it takes too long and I'm always getting shot and losing health. Solution: use Mint Retrograde. It works, but then you don't know why players are leaving (we can't try builds because it will barely work with the current state of the game, so we have hands tied and gotta use the same old same old boring metah OP).[/quote] You can strafe walk while shooting scouts like every other gun… If you really don’t like the modifier, just don’t put it on stuff.

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  • imagine using anything but mint

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    • The haste modifier is so overwhelming that you don’t even realize other modifiers are on. it completely modifies the way you play and it renders a lot of builds unusable for example, if you have a build, and you have specialized in the class ability for Titan and you use your rally barricade this is now pointless furthermore if you specialize in the class ability on your warlock and you use your rift, this is now useless. the haste modifier needs to be optional only or completely removed from all playlist. It literally makes some exotics pointless.

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    • Most of the modifiers are terrible.

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    • With all due respect: Why would you use a scout for barrier?! By the time you break the barrier the enemy it's at full health. Granted, not all scouts but polaris its a horrible choice for that. If you wanted solar explosions Eriana's will do that. Third iteration most of the time one shots shields. Mint retrograde it's op against shields. Or you can use Wish ender. It is still a strong option for that.

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      • Agreed, it’s like someone poking you in the back with a stick constantly, it’s not going to hurt much but it’s really really annoying.

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      • Lol... what a stretch, like Mr. Fantastic.

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      • I agree, it's a frustrating Modifier. As a Warlock I spend a lot of time in my puddle, but Haste puts the kibosh on that, makes it a liability, it's frustrating. Champions are frustrating for build crafting in general; I get the intent behind the design, I do, but like you say, it impedes build crafting. I've been using Deterministic Chaos so much I'm starting to think it's a good gun. Haste doesn't bother me that much (personally), but I'd love to see an overhaul to how we deal with champions. The current Champion Breaker system does put limits on build crafting, Haste can make those limits more punishing, like I said above, it can be frustrating.

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