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10/31/2025 12:39:12 PM
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So I’m at 400…. But I’m not a 400 player… ouch!
I only noticed this morning that the difficulty level had changed. I was no longer a newbie, a whelp, a kitten, and nor was I even an expert (as if), but reaching a higher level had somehow catapulted me into something I just wasn’t prepared for.
400 doesn’t represent me who, as a poor, bang average, less than average player, struggles to get his ship into orbit, and now because my level gives a false sense of my skill (non-existent at the best of times), I’m thrust into harder content where I can barely get twenty kills and die with alarming regularity!
I’m quite enjoying the haunted candy thingy, have had no soft locks and the rewards are quite acceptable, but boy oh boy do I feel underpowered and underperforming running ‘grandmaster’ level events.
Yeah, I’m at 400, but I still feel like a 200 player at best!
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It automatically swaps but I am 470 and I can swap between difficulties. Not only that, till 500 you dont even need pinnacles so you can grind lower level content (although tiering will be affected)
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1 ReplySo...stop playing on GM?
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1 ReplyWhat is this post section of positivity?? Has the negativity epidemic finally passed?! 😯
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2 RepliesI feel your pain. Same thing happened to me. I don’t know why Bungie thinks that just because you have the ability and tenacity to grind to a certain level, it suddenly makes you a professional level gamer. This entire power system is just plain stupid!
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Edited by Awtiii: 10/31/2025 4:06:05 PMYou're not giving yourself enough credit set, I know your limitations after years on here but there's very little difference as you go up levels, it's all very samey until you hit ultimate. Solo ops is easy peasy & if you don't like those just run matchmade & let others do a lot of the work. Just play your life & play smart, things like resist mods help a tonne, as does a build that can give health back like phoenix dive warlock with high class stat - it's really very simple. Happy to advise. Ultimate 500+ is a little tankier but even that's not overly bad if you avoid the awful stuff like contest of elders & savathuns spire - it's just a bit slower & you get bored. Easiest build for everything honestly imo is my warlock. All you need is Song of flame & phoenix dive Mint retrograde (the bow that drops this season can work too for barrier & range) Ahab char (look for heal clip & burning ambition) in solo ops - Polaris Lance if you're doing match made stuff & play your range. Any heavy, I'd say boomslang but I never use it much so your call, anything works. The only stats you want over 100 is class as high as possible, & weapons if it allows class to be above 100 too. Artifact put on all the solar & radiant mods. You can basically stun all champs over & over, & phoenix dive to get health back over & over. Practice makes perfect & it's really simple.
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1 ReplyThe power curve is not smooth guardian and at 400 you have almost a backwards step but keep at it and you will feel more comfortable from 410 onwards. Take advantage of the Haunted Altars activity for extra powerful drops to speed levelling. I'm a capable player and I was caught out as I reached the Master and Grandmaster difficulty thresholds but as I said, you will push through and find the curve flattens. Especially now as it's a fixed delta and adding modifiers does not add to the enemy power level. Eyes up Guardian. :)
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1 ReplyTrust yourself buddy! I am no way better regularly scoring lowest on any PvE fireteam activity. Yet I am on my way to 550 and only one conquest away from rank 10. Which sounds like a paradox to me. If someone like me can accomplish that everyone can. GM/Ultimate is not really (significantly) harder than Master/Expert and alike just more champions and less revives hence one must play more cautiously. Go ahead, sweet tier 5 loot is waiting for you... 😉
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1 ReplyWhat I found, both for better and for worse, is that build crafting makes all the difference. LL0-LL399 is about skill, LL400+ is all about build crafting. You've gotta' find a build that can nuke champions; after you find that build, the challenge gets a lot easier - at least in solo ops, fireteam ops is a bit of a mess (to put it mildly.) And for what it's worth, those graduations hit a lot of us like a truck, you're not at all alone in your frustration. When I got into Master level content I thought I was done for, like that was the end of the road for me, but after a while you start to learn "Okay, there's a barrier champion in the next room, I need to clear the adds first, then nuke the champion down, break his shield, and kill him, so I need to keep X ammo for Y weapon." What I'm saying is that it takes a while, but you'll learn the fights. The thing about higher difficulty levels is that not everything works, some builds just don't cut it, and that sucks. If you're up to it, try Getaway Artist Warlock, having a buddy handy really helps. Really, just having a meta build helps. I believe in you, I believe you can do the thing! I've been where you are, and if I can get past it as a fellow average player, you can, too. DIM is your new best friend.
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2 RepliesIm not a gm level player but i figured it out. I suggest play pvp until you get a few more levels then try again. Good luck guardian.
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That's because power/ light level isn't really meaningful as it was in Destiny 1
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1 ReplyI seen players say that about themselves as 520 powe plus players lol
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Edited by Dooodley: 10/31/2025 5:32:44 PMI'm convinced there's something off with the deltas. I used to play at -30 or -40 all the time prior to the implementation of the pre-set deltas and never had any issues. It's just been a drag since the deltas though. Another thing I've noticed, for exotic pinnacles specifcially - because I havent paid as much attention in fireteam ops, is that I have the exact same damage output in GM's and Ultimate - and I would assume the same damage taken too but that's harder to get the exact numbers on. There's literally no difference. It begs the question, are we on the same deltas regardless what difficulty we play on? Also, there's an issue with the system when we have to spec for an old GM and get advice from others just to clear daily content.
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3 RepliesIf you made it to 400. You have the gear and weapons to progress even further. I’m not trying to be a smart -blam!-, but I feel you may be selling yourself short. It sounds like a confidence issue. No “get good” or any of that no sense. Just stay with it guardian. You will continue to rise! Look for builds online (you tube) to help with recommendations on upgrades your favorite class. That will help a lot 🫡 stay with it!
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1 ReplyHey Guardian! I would not consider myself a very good player either and was a little surprised when I hit 400 and started GM level activities. However, my suggestions to make things easier would be : - Get some weapons with good rolls you enjoy using. Mint Retrograde in your primary slot is a lifesaver. Zavala also has a good selection of Mida Mini Tools right now for your energy slot (I would recommend the one w/ Heal Clip & Incandescent/Burning Ambition) - Check YT, etc. for a build you think would be fun. If you are a Warlock, I would recommend the void grenade/Contraverse Hold gloves/Chaos Accelerant build. A friend recently turned me on to this and you can just devastate enemies with almost constant grenade uptime. - Keep playing the Haunted Alters activity for the rewards, but also to get a feel for how GM at -25 will continue to feel like as you play. It is a chill and fun event imo. Reclaim is also a fun event to play to get good rewards vs. time spent and also is a good source of GM level difficulty "training" Good luck Guardian and keep at it!
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a lost tennoCarry the eternal flame… - old
Now get to 400 in Destiny one with full legendary gear and maybe an exotic or two
