I didn't have a problem with Timers.... till they began to become a pain in the -blam!-. If you want too keep timers in your game, fine. Do away with the health-gating. I don't need to get less of a score because the boss has to do an animation in a immunity phase to go on to the next section. I get that Bungie is trying to retain players. Remember Strike Specific Loot? Maybe hide that behind the Timers, make it good, none of that reskin crap. Separate the power grind gear from loot using timer runs. "We're listening" is what you guys more or less said, but at this point it also feels like you're giving people the finger while posting crap like that up.