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Edited by Prophet Of Nothing:
9/15/2025 12:37:10 PM
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Reasons why your game is doomed and everyone is leaving! Please feel free to add to this in comments if I missed anything.
1. Portal Sucks - Everything about it sucks.
2. Weekly Event Track - Sucks, no one wants to play stupid amounts of anything just to complete an event track.
3. Broken/Bugged Activities - you continue to add things to the game but don't fix the existing issues, it's clear at this point that people want things fixed as a priority over new things to do.
4. New Content is worthless - Plaguelands?!?!? It's the same activity for 3 different starting points. Vehicles have no health at grandmaster level. No tooltips for players that have no clue about new mechanics.
5. Leveling Grind is the Worst Ever - Before EoF people loved leveling, it was easy and a lot of dedicated players enjoyed the grind, now you have literally made it the most boring, awful thing in the game. Leveling up gear +1/+2 levels at a time, it's almost like you want people to leave the game.
6. Conquests vs Nightfalls - so farming nightfalls was a thing a lot of people loved, now with conquests, you can farm great, but you only get worthwhile gear on 1st completion, how is this an improvement. IT'S NOT! Also congrats require only new gear? Who the blue hell thought that was a good idea.
7. No more weekly raids/dungeons farmable GM nightfalls - like I get there's story progression beyond final shape, but why take these away from players, especially when they could have been used for leveling up faster.
8. Featured Exotics - this one is self explanatory, it's just dumb.
9. Armor 3.0 - way to truly screw up armor, so basically unless a player is playing a stupid amount of hours in the game to be 400+ and getting tier 4/5 gear, the armor is worthless. While the 100 and over part is great, the rest is just so blah, tier 3 and lower is just not worth it, most of your player base doesn't put the time in. Exotic 3.0 gear is awful, you can't even get 95/96 stat exotic armor like before 3.0, right now exotics drop a max of 63 stat, and there's no extra slot to put a cipher in to make it plus 28 so it's stuck at 25 (Max 88)
10. Eververse Microtransactions - you're losing players in droves but yet your still throwing all this crap into a silver only category, reward the remaining players with bright dust options.
11. Seasonal Rewards - went from 200 to 110, this one self explains.
12. Currency Issues - this one is a big issue for me, there are not enough sources to spend Ciphers, since exotics don't have an artifice slot anymore. Unstable Cores, don't even get me started on the cost to level up gear with Unstable Cores, you got rid of legendary shards, which wasn't a horrible system, but replaced it with this hot garbage, so as if level grinding wasn't bad enough, now if people wanna level up vaulted gear they must spend ridiculous amounts of Unstable Cores to do so. This is actually my biggest complaint in the game, getting rid of Upgrade Modules is possibly the biggest complaint from me.
13. Hawthorne - Hawthorne now gives worthless gear for playing with clan members, all gear drops at 200.
14. Exotic Engram Changes - so some open world engrams drop at 200 but some at level, make it make sense.
15. Your Priorities are whack - broken/bugged issues should be resolved first and foremost, level grinding and prime engram drops should have been an already fixed issue.
*** It feels like you want players to put obscene amounts of hours into this game just to be able to do anything worth while, you have taken the fun out of playing the game, level grinding is no longer fun, only having certain activities to play in the portal feels like a big-time miss. No one wants to play the current game the way it is and it's like no one at Bungie cares, literally.***
I'm sure I'm forgetting things so please add anything I didn't mention and let's blow this post out of the water and into Bungo HQ.
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3 RepliesThe number of times I turn on the game, look around, and then turn it back off, is depressing. The grind is simply not fun. There's literally no enjoyment. Just do the same thing over and over again but keep making it harder and harder. It's exhausting. I finally hit 450 and was looking forward to getting some more Tier 5 gear. To get it, on Grandmaster with no revives, Touche, No HUD, No Starting Ammo, and Brawn have to be on, along with 90 points of Challenge Modifiers. Can it be done? Sure. It's not fun. No, they don't have to change it. I just won't be doing it much, and that's sad. I am just waiting for another game to come along and take me away from this mess. Borderlands 4 isn't it. The search continues.
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2 RepliesI am sick of timers, revive tokens, -40 difficulty, all for normal activities. I’m sick of the power fantasy being nerfed by constantly being forced into higher tier content. I’m sick of 27 different modifiers for an activity that will be change tomorrow. I’m sick of locked loadouts in playlists. I’m sick of featured gear. I’m sick of events that are available for too limited of a time. Two weeks for solstice? Is that what we can expect for festival of the cost? Or is it going to be like last year where it ended before it was even Halloween? I’m sick of eververse. I’m sick of a game that doesn’t respect my time.
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The amount of FOMO increased by an order of magnitude; just by considering the week-long reward tracks for "events" that practically nobody asked for! Yet the real long-term asks that have been perennial mainstays like SRL have been left for NetEase to handle (who might I add has handled it quite well might I must say). The main game feels more gacha than the actual legit gacha version on mobile, and that is really telling of the motivation behind the devs and higher-ups at bungLe. "Get as much as quick as possible before the customers figure out the scheme," is constantly running through my head at every turn when I see what are to me blatant lack of regard for the playerbase and customer sentiment until it's already spoiled and then they have to pull the "we're listening" switch.
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At this point, apathy has set in. I don’t know about you but after I read your post, I thought “Why am I bothering?”. Bungie don’t care, the paid/unpaid mods and ninjas here don’t care. They issue forum warnings/bans whenever you cleverly use video form memes to mock Bungie. Which they did to me less than 6 hours ago. The only way this gets better is if we stop caring. Stop playing. Admittedly it may very well be counterproductive and the game gets shut down. Really though if we aren’t enjoying the game and we hate the direction it’s been going, what are we really going to miss? The game we loved has mostly disappeared, we aren’t having fun. Bungie don’t listen to our feedback and don’t implement it quickly enough for us to continue to support this game and this franchise. So what are we doing? I know some of you love this game. As did I, but not playing this week has been a like a wake up call. The grind is meaningless in terms of feeling stronger and the worst it’s been since D1 “Forever 29”, on top of being utterly pointless given the looming reset in Renegades. Given the utter debacle of the “Major” 🤣 mid season update that was Ash and Iron, does ANYONE have confidence that Bungie can right the ship in three months and actually deliver content that is good, stable and without game breaking bugs???? Because I certainly don’t. This is it. Destiny 2 is either going to have a miraculous resurrection, which could happen or more likely it’s going to continue down the road it’d been going down. If it’s more of the same then I don’t want to play anymore.
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ΞsnΛχΞVibing 💯 - old
The infusion costs are ridiculous. And then you get 25 unstable cores from a season pass level. Really? 25? ONE infusion costs like 2.500!!! Could not be more out of synch. Also, I appreciate that you mentioned the literally zero explanations in the game. I played that portal activity that is basically a part of the Warlord’s Ruin dungeon. Cool. No idea how the boss fight works. No idea where to go. No quest marker. No explanations. So now I have to watch a YouTube video to learn how to do a portal activity. Ridiculous. I played like a handful of activities since Ash of Iron dropped and everything felt awful. I have completely given up on levelling up bc I’ll never reach 450 or 550 or whatever the hell it is now. The game doesn’t want me to play. Bungie doesn’t want me to play. That is the message they’re sending. After countless hours, after 12 conqueror gildings, after 45 seals, I’m just not good enough to play this game anymore. Mainly because I refuse to play 8 hours a day. -
3 Repliesthey basically deleted the destiny 2 we've had for 10 years and replaced it with this horrific abomination that was seemingly generated by someone who only looks at spreadsheets and reports and never plays the game i just want destiny 2 back
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Edited by rednayeL: 9/16/2025 5:08:38 PMIf everything was the same as it is now, except I could still do GMs and didn’t require a high light level to do so, I might still be playing now. If everything was the same as before EoF, except we just got a whole lot of new CONTENT instead of new SYSTEMS, I would definitely still be playing.
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Edited by Maddmunkey: 9/16/2025 2:34:13 PMSick of timers Feeling like we are made of paper No crafting or red border farming Lost the feeling of playing in a universe Little matchmaking Shifting buildcrafting to only having 3 stats to work with while having to build into ammo is effing stupid and feels like stats were overall nerfed. No vault space for the million different armor sets Nothing is worth getting until you get a higher tier and the climb is so annoyingly sweaty I have no interest in doing it Can't buildcraft Can't over level endgame This whole year of destiny is stupid Oh and the overcomplicated requirement of "setting up" your games with a million stupid modifiers you don't want make it feel more like work than a game
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2 Replies16. Difficulty - As an average player who has terrible gear and not so good weapons, the only way I can earn the rewards is to set the difficulty at a level I can't complete the activity in the limited time Bungie deems allowable. I have not gotten better after years of playing, I am not going to get better just because someone says "git gud", or if bungie continues to increase difficulty. Nothing is making me a better player! My skill cap has been reached, and that is OK. What is not OK is designing the game around the best players and streamers wishes. Yes they should have the hard content, but the whole game should not be based around that level of difficulty. Bungie is actively alienating the average player! They are making the game so unrewarding, so not fun, not engaging that we are leaving. We are not spending money on the game. It is TOO late for bungie to correct this ship!
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2 Replies1. Removing items from in game rewards and focusing on Eververse 2. Portal has destroyed the ‘world’ of Destiny and MMO-like experience - it’s just a level select screen 3. Recycled content 4. Moving development resources away from Destiny and into Marathon 5. Tiers of gear tied to grinding power level rather than prestige of activity - raids and trials are pointless unless you’ve grinned hundreds of hours of content previously 6,7,8,9 and 10. You abused the loyalty of your dedicated fan base and reduced the quality of the game more and more, making activities purely to increase grind and forced engagement while at the same time shifting resources to your in game store to maximise micro transactions.
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1 ReplyIf I am going to grind, it's going to be enjoyable. Not whatever this is. The biggest point that was made was simple: I play the game longer/more BECAUSE I am having fun and WANT to. Not because I HAVE to in order to have fun. My time isn't valued in D2 currently. Rather do something else until it is. And if that day never comes, then like the Metallica song of the same name "I suffer this no longer"
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1 ReplyNew fireteam finder sucks
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I'm not a casual player, but I feel so bad for them. Every change seems like you're trying to kill your casual player base. The -blam!- leveling system, unstable core system, putting the best drops behind the horrible power grind, etc. I've been grinding steadily and I'm only 434 and it's going to reset in 2 months. I also don't understand giving only T1 drops for doing the new raid. The items aren't able to be enhanced or crafted so minimum should be T2, maybe T3.
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RECYCLED content I've already paid for being peddled as new content. Timers now so short cant complete content without losing lives before activity completion. PVP cheating, team balance, needing new maps. Excessive level grind, limited rewards other than Solstice event. Plague lands is a joke, this isn't new content. this is click bait, setting solo player up for failure.
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5 RepliesEdited by Manic_77_Mantis: 9/15/2025 10:25:46 PM16) Modifiers. Get rid of them. 17) Timers. Get rid of them. 18) Limited revives. Get rid of them.
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Credit to Paul Tassi at Forbes. Have the link in case you can’t bothered to watch the video. https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2025/09/15/my-motivation-to-play-destiny-2-hit-zero-24-hours-after-ash-and-iron/ I think that despite his somewhat poor takes on the industry and Bungie, Paul Tassi is currently spitting facts about Destiny 2. I can’t disagree with either of them. This is utterly disgraceful and disrespectful to their community that has supported them for over a decade.
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2 RepliesDmg also said on the latest stream that all nerfs were going to be reverted (including strongholds) and it was still nerfed. They lie!
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Bungie thinks that doing the same activities on a higher difficulty will make them more fun.
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Adding things like the coil is nice, but it would’ve been better if they added menagerie or srl instead, srl itself is a gateway for new armor/items such as sparrow horns. Aside from that it doesn’t make sense to have the portal as it takes away from the rest of the game, put what’s there, where it belongs, put the coil on the dreaming city, Nessus delves on Nessus, battlegrounds on their respective planets, hunts back on Europa etc. Not enough love is given to the patrol zones or the public spaces to never get updated aside from where the traveler is in the sky box is sad, sweeper bot been sweeping the same spot for half a decade. As far as patrol zones go there’s easily multiple things they could do to make it feel alive. Different types of patrol missions would be great. Unique patrolling enemies. Bring back “wanted” bounties, there’s a start.
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Edited by TripleF73: 9/16/2025 8:20:34 PMThe current update is still not good enough. Tank the population. If you aren’t having fun stop playing. Bungie only listen to the community when their backs are to the wall and they can feel their sphincters twitching. It’s time, no more toothless complaining. If you dislike the direction of the game and you aren’t having fun just stop playing D2.
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Why destiny is broken they keep trying to reinvent the wheel instead of implementing QoL updates and occasional significant dlcs (like 2 years between each drop or so) (which is what the infamous overdelivery meant really but lets be real bungie devs are lazy af). Armor 3.0 is a perfect example of this, you reset power so players would farm up new gear instead of what they already have weapon tiers is the bandaid fix to crafting because hard-core grinders complained that the grind didn't matter. But we all know if a weapon frame and perks are good people would grind it anyways. But until the devs and execs change how this franchise is run its doomed to sink.
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what happened to the reverse on strongholds nerf. did they lie about that also?
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I would disagree on Armor 3.0, I can imagine the system would work much better with pre-portal power progression from Prime/Pinnacle Engrams. What I would add tho is the lack of quality story writing as well to that list. As same as "IP INTEGRITY". Who the -blam!- wants a Star Wars DLC skinned to look like Destiny? When we joked back in 2014 in D1 about a Star Wars Crossover, we didn't spoke about this kitbash of a lore breaker.
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Hate the portal. Hate the power grind. Hate the seasonal gear bonuses.
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Agree
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Yeah you pretty much summarized it pretty well about what is really ruined the game. I think the top one is the choice for them to throttle progression to keep players in the game to make progression slower but refuse to make new content... Some of these fanboys do not want to acknowledge the fact even if you hit 500 what's the point there's no content in the game that requires you to be 500 other than conquest which is just a one time activity that you can repeat yeah but there's no real sense to keep doing it over and over...
