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9/10/2025 3:29:05 PM
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What happened to the fun?

I remember getting to log on and just have fun. Run through strikes and just have fun. Even some raid stuff was just fun. Now it is all grind. Everything has to have so many negative modifiers and everything is timed. It took all of the fun away when everything we do requires high focus. I don’t play to have another job. I play to have fun with friends and other online people. Seriously. Go back to the drawing board and figure out what fun means after a long day of work or any other life difficulties. Also, this moving everything in the director to only use the portal? That ain’t it. I guess you lost the playbook on immersive experience and fun. If I want to just grind out disjointed modes with no cohesion I’ll go play a card game or something. 10 years of amazing immersive story (not perfect) and you drop it all in the trash. Ever wonder why people actually pay monthly for some games? They are fun.

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  • Yes, have you seen anyone soloing a GM this season? It used to be a classic challenge of build testing in previous season. But now between the timer and s***loaf of modifiers, no one is doing that anymore. And that speak to how overturned the difficulty is.

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  • Edited by Nenya: 9/11/2025 3:47:37 PM
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    It should be obvious by now, that Bungie doesn't like when players have fun. You are enjoying playing with a specific weapon that has something special? No, no, no... we cannot have that! Let's rush to nerf it! You are having a blast with a special load out? No, no, no... we cannot have that! Let's rush a fix that will render it useless! You grinded for hours and hours to get that special drop that is super op and you finally got it? No, no, no.... we cannot have that. The day after you got it to drop, it's nerfed. You finally have the vault full of good rolls after innumerable hours of farming? No, no, no... we cannot have that! Let's vault half of all you have accumulated, and let's also eliminate some of those currency you are full of, for good measure, so we can put you back on the hamster wheel! You have found a sweet spot on the map where you can DPS the boss without getting instantly obliterated? No, no, no.... we cannot have that! Let's put a Shriker that constantly spawns right in that spot, oh, and since we are at it, let's close all doors and force the players in a very tight space where they are rushed from all sides by wave after wave of enemies and some 'Champions', while the boss goes immune every 10 seconds, and... oh, yes... let's add lots of jumping puzzles, a stomping mechanic and a timer on top of all that! You have having fun leveling up quickly so that you can gain access to the end game and enjoy playing raids with your friends? No, no, no.... we cannot let you level up too quickly! Let's make it a boring pointless, never ending, unrewarding grind, so that, by the time the you reach the light level for a raid, the new season is already here and you are back at square one once again. Why not add also a feature when you can rank up faster and skip some of the grind by spending real money? Isn't it a genial idea? Players are, after all mindless addicts who would throw money at the screen no matter the garbage we toss at them! You are super excited because finally, for once, this DLC looks good and it has a good story, and missions and quests that are actually enjoyable to play? No, no, no.... we cannot have players with too high expectations, otherwise we actually need to work hard to deliver good content that's worth the price tag! Next time, better recycle some old content and throw in the mix a few reskins and a couple old maps, since we are at it, and call it a day. You are having fun at playing the story at your own pace, cause you want to see how it ends? No, no, no... we cannot have players that are already finished with the whole story in a couple of weeks! Let's make the content time gated and drip feed them, so that they have to keep coming back every week until the next season! You are having fun completing a lot of bounties to get some more Bright Dust? No, no, no... we cannot have players earning too much Bright Dust, otherwise they are not going to buy Silver, so let's eliminate the bounties and introduce a different more convoluted system to slow them down! You want to use the guns you like and the load out you like and tuned up and perfected, to play that difficult content? No, no, no... we cannot have players using the same guns and load outs for more than one season! So, let's force them to use the guns and the load outs we decide they should use each season, by means of the 'Artifact' and the 'Champions' mechanics. And now also with the Armor special features that change with every release! So we are in control of what the players are going to use at any given time! ................. [Feel free to add yours to the list. I am pretty sure there's much more than that] This video says it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4omsxNrIIQ

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    • If you are having fun you aren’t playing Destiny correctly. - Me

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      • I’m ok with most of the modifiers (volatile shields and screeber can bite my crank…) but get rid of the gd timers. I understand getting extra points for a quick finish. (Doesn’t work that way with my wife!…I’ll see myself out) But don’t take away the revives after grinding our butts off to get to the final boss fight. It’s so disheartening to wipe to orbit after wasting all that time.

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      • Edited by Goshi: 9/11/2025 5:17:48 PM
        Agree, bring back the fun not this massive under powered, can't see health, can't see hub radar abilities. There are no hero moments, nothing that makes us feel powerful. Just a slog for everything. This is a game, throw rewards at us not drip feed, we aren't Oliver Twist. If it isn't obvious to them by player count and all the streamers/youtubers getting fed up.

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      • Simple answer here. The current team at Bungle Studios is incapable of creating anything fun or interesting. They lack the talent, skill and creativity to progress this game any further. That’s why you see nothing but broken content (release after release after release); constant recycling of old content, constant nerfs to exotic weapons and armor that’s working yet ignoring the ones that need buffing, the list goes on.

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      • We found fun was performing better than expected with our internal testing so we reduced fun by 75%

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      • When a game gets me angry and is no fun, Guess what? I don't want to play anymore we play to relax and have fun with our friends, not to beat are heads against a wall or pay money to play Calder 500 times to level. All the pinnacle runs are a joke they completely destroyed them. But they can't figure out why where all the players are going. TO PLAY GAMES THAT ARE FUN!!!!!!!!

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        Nothing in the game is fun. I went to grind inverted spire for the new sidearm this morning. I was met with randoms dying and leaving, -40 delta, a timer, screebers, oscillation, shrouded enemies, etc.. it sucks. The game sucks now, and i am starting to make my peace with it. If B4 is good.... destiny 2 will be put behind me.

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      • “We’re listening and continue to monitor feedback… anyways here’s all these nerfs no one asked for. Also we want you to play how you want to play… but if you don’t use our featured gear, you’re at a disadvantage”

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      • Completely agree! Pre EoF, I used to log on and enjoy literally EVERY activity. Even when I felt some parts of the story could have been better or didn't match past lore, I STILL enjoyed playing. I could mindlessly run strikes, seasonal activities, or go solo a dungeon or a GM Nightfall if I wanted to challenge myself. We ran several raids a week in my clan. I helped several people get raid seals they were chasing. There were a good 2 solid pages of players on every day. Now...it's a ghost town. No one wants to raid. I can't get anyone for any activities. After getting to 400 before Ash and Iron, it was such a slog, I did 107 Caldera and several runs of the other solo activities. It HAS become more like a second job. There are times after work that I log on and just play around with armor ornaments and shaders, then log off. I can't bring myself to do the stuff I enjoyed, because it just isn't there anymore. The Kepler story was good, but the power grind and delta are just too much for someone with a full time job. Being 50+ under for nearly every activity just to get good loot is demoralizing and has effectively destroyed the bliss I found in this game pre EoF. This game that I met so many people to make life less lonely. Now it's a lonely solo grind that just elicits angry Hive noises from me.

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      • Log on First thing you see is a lifeless list of jobs they want you to accomplish. Forces your hand to add a bunch of modifiers you don't want Pulls you away from activities you want to play Removes all social aspect to ensure you suffer alone. And reminds you over and over again that you are here to work in the mines NOT have fun doing the things you want with the gear and weapons you want. You play by Bungie rules not your own.

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      • Edited by trusty_axe: 9/11/2025 3:12:07 PM
        I'm almost at 5000 hours on this game and am mostly a PVP player, but do still run a lot of PVE as well. All I can say is that I'm sick of this BS they have put out now. I will not be buying any more expansions or season passes because I could just as easily throw my hard earned money up a hog's a*s and watch it run over the hill. Bungle can take this new armor and tier, modifier, stupid grind and the eververse store and shove it up their rears until they hit their elbows. I may still play some PVP, but I'm not doing all of this other stupid sh*t...pure garbage. Shame...

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      • Hi. I'm a D1 beta player that finally gave up earlier this year. Indeed way back then the game was fun. I've always been a pvp player, but what I liked about Destiny was I could go into pvp high intensity and then kind of relax and play a few pve. Also the loop made sense because a lot of time I'd find better weapons in pve that then I'd try out in pvp. A lot has happen since then and any of us could write an essay on what we think went wrong, but I'll just say what drove me away (well, not totally since I since check out the forums every once in a while). First, as a pvp guy, the ability spam. Yeah Destiny was always about space magic, but over the years imho they pushed on the sauce too much. Too many buffs and puffs and too much visual noise that a lot of times left me like wtf is going on. Some may like it, I don't. Then population decrease which led to ever increasing dificulty in pvp. I remember having a group that got together on Friday night to get to the lighthouse in D1. We always managed it and it was fun. Eventually it got so hard that it was just frustrating. And then, of course, what you talk about and made me post -- the grind for the sake of grinding. Ever more convoluted and hard and ever less rewarding. I don't think this game will make a comeback. It was a good run and I keep fond memories of it, but I truly believe it has run its course. On Steam, sometimes it has less people playing than CS2 has players searching for a new game. And btw, Marathon ain't it either.

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      • "What happened to the fun?" Bungo sunset it.

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      • It’s in Eververse

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      • You're so wrong by saying subjective things as if they're objective ...that you're not worth trying to reason with. I'll just let you and the other morons have your pity party and complain about things that only a small minority of gamers care about. Go play BL4. Please!!!

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        • The devs forgot we play this game for fun.

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        • I'm only PL 373. The amount of modifiers I have to put on the solo ops to get anything of use is awful.

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        • Bungie sunset fun along with 90% of D2. I have been a huge fan of destiny/D2 but Bungie continues to under deliver and literally ever update breaks the game.

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        • Edited by TheArtist: 9/11/2025 4:02:19 PM
          It happens when your focused on control and “challenge”. This is how The Division franchise nearly self-destructed back in 2016. Bungie double-tapped the game’s power-fantasy.

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        • All fun has been sunset. 😥

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        • The only thing fun I. The game right now is how broken Saturn is. I’m amazed bungie hasn’t disabled it yet

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        • Fun means they might end up overdelivering and you know how much Bungie hates to overdeliver, so instead they underdeliver you expansions and content like Edge of Fate and Renagades

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        • “You do know… what company…we’re talking about here?” Skeletor.

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        • Did you not get the memo? Bungie has removed all the fun they can from the game. Look at any release they do that have a bug that benifits us they ae so fast to remove it but anything that hurts us or slows our grind they tell us it's coming, so is the end of the world. Yeah I used to login in the morning complete strikes/pathfinder/bounties, it mixed up my game play and style but now it is just Ops, Ops, Ops all locked once you get to higher levels. I swear when they designed the ops all they thought about was how they can make our game play hell, why does everything have to be to make it harder where the hell are the fun things like super/grenade reharge, heavy ammo drops. If they need to understand fun is and what we want they only need to look at Destiny Rising, there are so many great things in there, I love I can go in there decide what I want to do and achieve things within the game.

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