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All exotic weapons and armour should count towards Avant Garde.

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  • [quote]Topic body.[/quote] Agreed. The beauty of big updates is when an unused random exotic gets directly or indirectly buffed and becomes highly used. While undoubtedly bungie had purposely buffed exotics like this before, the featured system makes it feel even more like the sandbox is being hand picked rather than random.

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    Ezekiel 25:17 - old

    Feels silly to have all this build potential and then.. exclude so many possible builds. Bungie calls this QoL updates. Most just call it lazy development. If this new armour system is going to work, we need to be able to build into it how we want with as few restrictions as possible.

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  • New gear feature is just dumb, can't tell you how much i dislike it especially as a hunter.

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  • Counter argument, remove avant garde altogether. It's a trash modifier simply to exist to maintain the hamster wheel each season so we MUST re grind gear sets every 6 months or lose access to various activities.

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  • Absolutely. And especially because day after day, it comes to our attention that this armour system, [b][i]which nobody asked for[/i],[/b] is totally broken, with figures and stats not counting correctly. Ironically, I'm enjoying EoF [b][i]apart [/i][/b]from the Kepler and the armour changes

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    • I HATE the new gear feature. Lower scores Less damage Less DR No access to conquests It's too much.

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    • It just needs to go altogether. It goes against the grain of a build crafting looter game. You spent time and resources to grind all the stuff you wanted for a build but in a few months it will do less damage and get you a lesser reward score for running it. Also places your locked out of to run it. It's not logical when the object is to grind for cool stuff to make cool builds.

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    • Or Avant guard is dumb and should be removed...hot take I know but it's how I feel

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    • NO! The game is perfect. It’s so garbage that i started having fun outside of video games. Thats why I don’t bother playing it anymore 🤣

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    • The genocidal kai makes a good point.

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    • Agreed!

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    • Yes!

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    • Seconded.

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