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8/7/2025 4:03:15 PM
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Your PvP matchmaking is embarrassing
It’s not hard imaging why this game and the pvp just can’t keep retention. Who tests and green lights this mess. Every game is over before it even starts.
I seriously just don’t get what is so hard about not mixing up the teams to where it’s one sided.
And then god forbid I win one match and then you split my team up but then go ahead and let me match multiple times with the same people when I lose terribly.
Just a pure mess.
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1 ReplyYou should look at my match history from yesterday. These people run around the map like squirrels on crack with ADHD and I'm expected to win? I played for hours yesterday and I can count the number of times I won on one hand. These people just drag me down with them and it's infuriating.
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2 RepliesIt is hard to balance teams without strict SBMM in place. Let's assume that Bungie accurately tracks the skill of a player ON AVERAGE. A player's skill is not an absolute - it can vary based on A LOT of factors, including map, loadout, teammates, opponents, state of mind, hardware, internet connection, etc. Player # - "Bungie" Skill - "True" Skill For That Day Player 1 - 1000 - 800 Player 2 - 900 - 900 Player 3 - 800 - 800 Player 4 - 700 - 700 Player 5 - 600 - 600 Player 6 - 500 - 500 If we balance based on Bungie's skill, then we get: Team 1: Players 1, 4, 6 Bungie Average Skill: 733 True Average Skill: 666 Team 2: Players 2, 3, 5 Bungie Average skill: 766 True Average skill: 766 Using this example, we can see that Team balancing varies a lot based on just 1 player playing off their rating. The skill difference tripled with just 1 player playing abnormally. Now think waht happens when you have multiple players playing abnormally.
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Edited by Wanderer: 8/7/2025 11:13:34 PMI got to be honest. When I want to pvp, I don't play Destiny 2. I play something like Planetside 2. It's no contest. edit: To anyone curious, planetside 2 maybe be very old (and it shows), but it can still provide amazing experiences. And there is no other game like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eygxFM2b73g
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The original Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare on the old Xbox 360 actually was a better experience than this, and probably my best pvp game to date…
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I've seen enough I'm calling this one
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You should look at my match history from yesterday. These people run around the map like squirrels on crack with ADHD and I'm expected to win? I played for hours yesterday and I can count the number of times I won on one hand. These people just drag me down with them and it's infuriating.
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The current game state is embarrassing.
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3 Replies[quote]It’s not hard imaging why this game and the pvp just can’t keep retention. Who tests and green lights this mess. Every game is over before it even starts. I seriously just don’t get what is so hard about not mixing up the teams to where it’s one sided. And then god forbid I win one match and then you split my team up but then go ahead and let me match multiple times with the same people when I lose terribly. Just a pure mess.[/quote] Been saying it for years, only for lots of people in these forums to insult me and tell me to get good. It's been embarrassing for literally years and years.
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lol what are you expecting?! PvP is dying and nothing is being done with PvP . PvP is what it is ….i feel sorry for the people who are stuck playing day in day out 🤷🏼♂️
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Honestly, the easiest way to address this is to add in lobby balancing that takes effect after 1 match. You stay in matchmaking, with lobby balancing in effect, and you get a bonus drop with a potentially better balanced game. Gears of War 3 did it in an excellent manner.
