I feel it needs to be said, giving up perks for ammo finder has gotten stale ... when do we get nano packs that just MAKE AMMO? It's a Sci-Fi LOOTER sHOOTer ... or is it just GET SHOT FOO ... ? Ammo attrition is one of the worst ways to "balance" difficulty. especially when a catalyst mob / boss? takes a streamer 45 minutes to beat . . .