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Edited by M1KE DA 1KE: 8/2/2025 12:43:16 PM
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Edge Of Fate is the single WORST update/expansion this game has had in years.

Edge Of Fate brought with it many changes and new features. Some of these are actually good changes in my opinion (like the new stats no longer affecting our maximum health, our recovery, or our mobility like the old stats) But at the same time as making some good changes this DLC has made A LOT of REALLY BAD changes. So I'm making this post to talk about all of the things that I think are good and all of the things that I think are bad about this new update. Let's start off with the good since there's a lot more bad than good with this new update. In my opinion I think the stat changes are actually quite good. Obviously the loot grind is a whole different issue, but when it comes to the actual stats I think the new stat system is far superior and a million times better than what we used to have without a doubt. Having the ability to now fully customize my stats to make my build work the way I want it to without having to worry about having to focus on stuff like resilience and recovery like I used to have to do is absolutely FANTASTIC! The new ammo generation system as well is FAR SUPERIOR and a million times better than the old ammo system (which was completely RNG) and it's definitely one of the best changes Bungie has ever made. Well that wraps up the good, now onto the bad. Boy did Bungie ever make A LOT of horrible terrible awful changes to this game in this update... Let's start with the new portal, the new portal honestly feels like something pulled straight out of an alpha build and slapped into the full game without ever undergoing any changes or fixes to polish it and make it good before it was added. Who in their right mind approved the portal in its current form? Because whoever did that should be fired. The portal is the single most disappointing thing in this new update because it clearly has A LOT of potential to be really good, but no one actually put in the time or the effort to make it actually good before adding it to the game. The new solo ops are okay, but the fireteam ops are where Bungie really messed up. Not only did they remove 90% of the fireteam matchmaking activities we had access to before this update, but they also removed matchmaking entirely from everything EXCEPT FOR THE QUICK PLAY PLAYLIST! WHY??? Why would you remove matchmaking from fireteam activities??? Who thought this was a good idea? This is the single dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life! Nightfalls (which have been in the game since D1) are gone now along with all of the nightfall exclusive weapons. Like, who the actual fudge thought this would be a good idea? 🤦‍♂️ There was nothing wrong with strikes, and nightfall strikes were perfect! And now without them the game feels empty and hollow... We also lost one of my favorite new activities onslaught which has now been moved into the fireteam ops and had its matchmaking removed for no reason and all of its exclusive farmable weapons removed and shoved into Xurs already overfull loot pool. I just don't understand how any of this trash got approved... There are several other PVE activities that were all perfectly fine before this update and have either been killed or completely removed in this update. I just don't understand why Bungie would remove all of that already really good content when there was nothing wrong with it and we all liked it and enjoyed it how it was! This update feels like when they removed Red War, Curse Of Osiris, & Warmind from the game. Bungie how the actual heck did you not learn from your mistakes! Anyways continuing on, engrams have also been removed so now players have no actual reason to play the older activities because why bother when all you need to focus older weapons now is some glimmer & enhancement cores. Oh yeah also we can no longer focus any of the nightfall weapons, competitive weapons, or Trials Of Osiris weapons because again they've all been removed and shoved into Xurs already way overfull loot pool. I just don't understand how Bungie thought players would like any of these changes... The new loot tier system is complete garbage (especially for the armor). Like, it's nice that I have a guaranteed way to get the better higher stat armor, but I have no way of actually farming this armor because you can only farm a couple of drops per week for each character! Oh yeah also we can't artifice any of the new legendary or exotic armor, so that's another massive L. Oh and the awesome new Pathfinder system I really liked that they just added in the last update, also gone now... I also don't like the new stat focusing junk either, I preferred the old system where I had armor drop with stats in all 6 columns and not only 3 of the 6 different columns like this new system. Not to mention the armor focusing mods for the ghost just don't work at all right now so they're completely useless as well. This whole update feels like Bungie made 1 step forwards, but then took two steps back... Bungie here's how you fix this, add back everything you removed in this update and then instead of removing the older stuff in order to replace it with the new stuff instead make the old stuff compatible with the new stuff and add the old stuff to the new stuff. There was no reason for you to remove and take away so many good things we had before this update in order to replace it all with the trash that is currently in the game. So add back everything you removed (with matchmaking too for all the stuff that had matchmaking before this update) and make it all compatible with the new stuff and then go from there.

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  • The ammo bar sucks

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  • At least Bungie keeps topping itself. Every year yall come whining on the forums about X being the worst thing. Yall are making me proud of Bungie. Finding new ways to piss you off that tops every worst update they put out.

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  • [quote]We also lost one of my favorite new activities onslaught which has now been moved into the fireteam ops and had its matchmaking removed for no reason [/quote] Correction : it is matchmade, but it has to be the default pick not the custom mode one as setting it to custom turns off matchmaking

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  • Edited by glitchHiker: 7/29/2025 6:10:23 AM
    100% correct. This is easily the worst expansion ever released, mainly because the ones before it were some of the absolute best and destiny was actually in a fantastic place pre-revenant. That makes everything since, and especially this DLC that much more painful. At this point, Bungie should just roll back the entire update/DLC and revert the game back to where it was in heresy. They could even continue RotN and release solstice as planned to give us something to do. They really need to go back to cooking these changes, the game is in a -blam!- state and easily has the lowest player numbers of any paid expansion in Destiny history. The #1 change they need to remove entirely is the new gear bonuses, I'm not going to grind for new gear for the next 5 months only to throw it all away and never use it again, armor included. F*ck that and f*ck you too, Bungie. I might've been tempted to buy the expansion and come back if it wasn't for that toxic feature. It's nothing but an artificial barrier that has no benefit to the player whatsoever, and is only an attempt to keep us playing longer and always coming back - this whole expansion is built on that philosophy, only it appears to be hilariously backfiring! Bungie seems to be the only company (outside of the usual predatory mobile devs) who are designing their game around artificial barriers and slowing player progress in an effort to increase their engagement metrics. Removing crafting, engrams, Engram focusing, etc - all VERY anti-player. This new director needs to be fired already and this whole update rolled back and put back in the oven. Ever since he took over (Revenant) the player count has taken a complete nosedive with every change he's made, if Bungie doesn't fire him - or even better, Sony doesn't take over, Destiny will be a complete ghost town by the time renegades launches. It's pretty much just the streamers and the hardcore gambling addicts (with nothing better to feed their addiction) left playing at this point. Idk why any sane person would keep playing this toxic, un-rewarding trash unless they were paid to.

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  • They tried to get away with resetting us in a sequel without actually making a sequel and it’s backfiring spectacularly.

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  • I'd argue it's the worst update Destiny has received at any point in its life, including Destiny 1 days. Even Curse of Osiris, as bad as it was, was still the base gameplay loop and it didn't interfere with personal lives more than any other game might; the content itself was just bland and uninteresting. This update has all the blandness, but also an actively hostile grind that does nothing but disrespects the player at every turn. It's as if the devs themselves are using this update as a roundabout way to convince the players to walk away from the game. Either through malice, stupidity, or some weird way to protest against management, they're seemingly intentionally sabotaging the franchise. It's so bizarre. I know this update was built on the bones of an End of Life plan, but if they're not intending to put Destiny on maintenance mode anymore, why did they continue with an update designed for maintenance mode? I just don't get it.

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      That's my exact thoughts on portal, ITS JUST EMPTY. There's no way someone thought "let's add 10 activities to portal with one mission granting a bonus drop!", and assumed people would eat it up. I cannot comprehend why there isn't a ton more inside the portal. I should see like a ton of new and vaulted activities in the portal, with way more activities offering bonus drops. That's literally how they advertised it. Instead we have 3 missions with bonus drops and all are old exotic missions that absolutely no one wants to farm. Especially after most people ALREADY farmed them to get the intrinsics/catalyst for all of their respective exotics. It's just such a good idea that was an absolute waste to add in its current state. Really unfortunate...

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    • Edited by Uncle Fester: 7/28/2025 9:21:12 PM
      single worst EVER!!!! Even that borked expansion with the infinite forest had a lost sector and a new public event.

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      • I gave it a fair shake. Got the seal, leveled to 300, did a couple of the conquests (which were lame) and now there's nothing but a level grinder in front of me. The portal is pretty well empty and lacks variety. If things stay the way they are, people will absolutely leave without a second thought. Pretty disappointing really.

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      • Wrath of the Machine is just around the corner. They’ve been waiting for dark times to bring back the GOAT raid

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        • Uninstall for a month.

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        • I miss GM, that’s 90% of what I played before EoF and I haven’t found a replacement. Plus some moron limited the number of time we can run Conquest… way to go Charlie.

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        • Let's make it very clear this was not an update this was an expansion updates do not cost 40 to a 100 dollars...

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          • I'm not reading all that, but I agree with the title. The multilayered grind on top of no new powers is some bull.

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          • No more GM’s? That was literally one of the reasons I played the game and the fireteam finder collapse coupled with the guardian ranking system is the reason I stopped playing. I guess I will not be playing anytime soon. Getting close to deleting the app tbh

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          • Ya im just not into it, not having fun

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          • I feel like these seasons and new dlcs burn people out. Because you’re constantly trying to level up. I’m a pvp main so playing pve is annoying and boring. I’m always under level in trials because it’s like every day you have to reach a new light level. They need to stop with constant level ups. And get rid of sbmm

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            • Nods enthusiastically 👍

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            • The Devs are 100% tone deaf and don’t know what their community wants although the answers are right in front of them.

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            • There is now a level 0

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