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7/27/2025 9:23:19 PM
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Edge of Fate a massive disappointment

I have played Destiny since D1 Beta and this new power grind is absolute s**t. Like what were you thinking, the portal is so lackluster, the power grind is a disaster, and the new armor system is a complete joke, you cannot artifice new exotic armor! It's so easy to earn strange coins and there's no where to spend them at all if you have all exotics (weapons/armor) the power grind alone is absolute trash, who wants to play 10 year old s**t for a miniscule power creep of gear, mythic is stupid, the portal is atrocious, it's like the blind leading the blind, you have to select every single activity to see if the gear even drops higher or not, there's no clear directive of what to do or play after finishing the campaign (Icons before EoF) other than to power creep, the scoring system is stupid AF, wanna know the worst of it all, Bungie is forcing everyone to wear new gear for bonus points/damage/etc, so what's the point of the artifice gear alot of us grinded for all these years, exotics drop at trash base stats, new armor we're forced to use is also base stat trash, you can't play activities if you're not using new gear!!!!! Like honest to God who in the holy f**k at bungie decided that any of this was a good idea, the game has been out for 11 years and now you decide to tank it completely and just completely alienate your remaining player base? Nobody wanted any of this, and I mean no one, we just tolerate it bcuz we play it daily, but even those people are tired of it. The story of the campaign....absolutely great, everything else, complete and utter s**t, wake up and fix this s**tshow. I'm telling you this right now, whoever is still left is NOT going to pay for anymore DLC until you make this right. We're fed up and ready to find something else.

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  • Game is dead face it.

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  • You’re assuming Bungie accidentally made a garbage fire. Nah. This is intentional. Nobody over there is sitting around wondering, “Oh no, why don’t players love our busted loot treadmill and unfriendly systems?” They knew. They knew before it launched. This isn’t the result of clueless devs. It’s the result of smart devs doing what the suits told them to do - build a dopamine-dead grind loop designed to pad engagement stats and push people toward the cash shop out of sheer exhaustion. Every system now screams: “Play longer, get less, feel worse.” That’s the model. If you’re still logging in, they’ve already won. The portal? Meaningless fluff. The new armor rules? Designed to invalidate everything you grinded for before, so you’ll chase it all over again. Artifice gear? Outdated. Exotic drops? Severely limited on purpose. You’re meant to stay broke and frustrated so maybe you’ll swipe your card for something shiny that actually feels rewarding. And the power grind? Oh, that’s just a masterclass in time-wasting. Play 10-year-old content, maybe get a half-step upgrade, then do it again. And again. And again. The whole thing is tuned to be just barely tolerable so they can keep the “engagement” graphs up while spending the absolute minimum on actual content. Of course it’s miserable. It’s supposed to be. The fewer meaningful rewards you get, the more they think you'll lean into the cash shop. They’re not chasing fun anymore. They're chasing metrics. How long did you play? Did you buy anything? Are you still on the hamster wheel? And if you fell off? Whatever. Expected and normal dropoff curve. There's always another whale around the corner. So no, they didn’t “mess up.” They built exactly what they set out to build. The only thing left to see is whether enough people stop playing to make them care. This bungie maintenance team doesn't deserve any good faith assumption or benefit of the doubt. This is crass anti-player design from floor to ceiling.

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    • “Nobody wanted any of this, and I mean no one, we just tolerate it bcuz we play it daily” Well, there’s the problem. The only thing Bungie will truly respond to is if everyone stops playing. If you hate the game but keep playing then it is a successful game for Bungie.

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      • Pretty sure the devs dont even read theyr forums. OR maybe they use it as an entertainment xD

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        • Story was awful. We spent the entire campaign trying to reach The Singularity, which we had no idea what it was just that we urgently need to get there fast. Some unknown object that we know nothing about, just that we need to get there first? Where does that sound familiar? "Cough" The Veil "cough cough."

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        • There is only 1 thing worse than the current expansions dialogue, Vogon poetry.

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          • Bungie don't read this forum. They don't even have a moderator any more.

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          • Just uninstall for a month and stop buying slop.

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          • Excellent rant. And true.

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          • How’s this for an idea for a game a superduper 2 1/2 hour complex puzzle where you can’t solve it unless you have to watch it online first I want a game. I don’t have to watch how to do it first I want it to be able to figure it out And when you finally do get to the end congratulations here’s a new mission. Do the same stuff all over again are you freaking kidding me the same stuff all over again. So I was gonna do it for the exotic gun. I had my third thing to trigger. I died and it wore me to the other side of the freaking world where I can’t even get to where I waswhat the -blam!- I think I’d rather just put a -blam!- bullet in my -blam!- brain.

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          • I feel like the biggest casualty of all is the Raid. I just finished it last night, and Desert Perpetual is one of the better Raids Bungie has put out. The problem is all of the changes sours the whole experience. The permanent -20 Power Delta even on Normal makes it that much harder to divide your attention between ad clearing and learning/paying attention to mechanics. The ammo economy means you can't efficiently rely on Heavy or even Special Weapons for DPS. Fireteam Finder being the only LFG option is unreliable since you can't specify the Encounter.

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            • [quote]I have played Destiny since D1 Beta and this new power grind is absolute s**t. Like what were you thinking, the portal is so lackluster, the power grind is a disaster, and the new armor system is a complete joke, you cannot artifice new exotic armor! It's so easy to earn strange coins and there's no where to spend them at all if you have all exotics (weapons/armor) the power grind alone is absolute trash, who wants to play 10 year old s**t for a miniscule power creep of gear, mythic is stupid, the portal is atrocious, it's like the blind leading the blind, you have to select every single activity to see if the gear even drops higher or not, there's no clear directive of what to do or play after finishing the campaign (Icons before EoF) other than to power creep, the scoring system is stupid AF, wanna know the worst of it all, Bungie is forcing everyone to wear new gear for bonus points/damage/etc, so what's the point of the artifice gear alot of us grinded for all these years, exotics drop at trash base stats, new armor we're forced to use is also base stat trash, you can't play activities if you're not using new gear!!!!! Like honest to God who in the holy f**k at bungie decided that any of this was a good idea, the game has been out for 11 years and now you decide to tank it completely and just completely alienate your remaining player base? Nobody wanted any of this, and I mean no one, we just tolerate it bcuz we play it daily, but even those people are tired of it. The story of the campaign....absolutely great, everything else, complete and utter s**t, wake up and fix this s**tshow. I'm telling you this right now, whoever is still left is NOT going to pay for anymore DLC until you make this right. We're fed up and ready to find something else.[/quote] What's BS is we earned those exotics and artifices we own, and this new stat catastrophe robbed us of our work of 10 + years in your case.Im mad as heck and think it's wrong for Bungie to change so drastically that makes what we earned during all the expansions we bought useless.we don't even get Relevant materials when dismantling or high agility hunter stuff or high resilience everything and how did it all transfer? Not in a comparable way that's for sure

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            • Edited by Candy: 7/28/2025 2:01:10 PM
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              Where are all my “ Just wait and play it “ and “ oh you’re commenting on a game you havent played yet “ people ? Because the state of the game right now was obvious to anyone with a brain before it even came out

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              • The instable core economy is also a joke. 40 instable core to upgrade a gun +10 level is insanely high when you see how long it takes to grind. Also mythic difficulty needs some tweaking, red bar are way to tanky and the ammo economies, even with all the right mods, still sucks and make the double special build barely useable. They really need to do some sandbox adjustment.

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              • Edited by Noodle: 7/28/2025 1:53:45 AM
                So you know, mentioning you played since D1 beta means nothing to them, it unfortunately falls on deaf ears. Nobody who currently works at Bungie worked on anything before Forsaken. With the number of mass layoffs, I’d safely wager that nobody in Bungie is the same as who used to work there.

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                • Think about it as a very clever but sneaky move by Bungie to save their -blam!-es. Players: this grind is over the top too taxing Bungie to Sony: have you seen how many hours the player base has been grinding? Players: we should be able to use our artifice armour and craftable weapons that we spent years grinding for, and not forced to use this new rubbish just for bonuses. Bungie to Sony: we must be doing something right cos the players are ditching their old stuff for the new gear. Players: three quarters of raid completions were cheating and should be perma banned. Bungie to Sony: The new raid was a huge success. Although we made it super challenging, look how many completions there were.......and all legit.......as far as we know. Basically, they threw the majority of players under the bus to impress Sony with a "[b]successful[/b]" new style of Destiny, and it blew up in their face.

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                • D one vet. D one vet . D one vet . D one vet

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                • They sold us a limp horse….maybe even dead.

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                • Adjust, adapt, overcome

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                • What bothers me is I’m bored now. I wasn’t bored a few weeks ago. Why was the free appetizer better than the $40 main course? And they reused titan and didn’t even bother to take out titans planetary material.

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                  • I agree about the Strange Coins, but I was given the impression it was more of a "catch-up" system for newer players and those missing Exotics than anything else.

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