People need to go back & watch the 2 podcasts from Jason Schrier & Jeff grubb after the 2nd layoff wave. It's all come as expected from THE only 2 trusted gaming journalists out there. As hard as it is to read, it's all fact. Both spoke to bungie & Sony high level staff (not sure how high but high enough to know this) The takeaways; Both agree destiny is in its death spiral, income & player retention drop year on year since shadowkeep, resulting in it not being sustainable so forced layoffs & future budget cuts. Staff told to 'work with what they already have', yes budget & staff is that low. Destiny will become a game you play once a week, or even once a month, not a game you play daily. Much lighter & less content over the year. No more seasonal story, maybe just 1 raid & 1 dungeon a year. Higher monetisation & grind to keep player hour retention & income high to make up for expected falloff of player base If marathon fails, theres a very high chance the studio disappears, Sony have made it very simple, marathon needs to be big or else. Now look at what we've got with edge of fate? 1 small planet with limited things to do, which will be dry in a week or so. Portal is all reused activities. Seasonal stuff is old strikes, no activity or story. Game is very grindy & tedious, the only content seemingly is to level up. It's very bare bones & we will absolutely see huge player loss in a month when things like borderlands & other new games drop. There's even a theory that keplar is what Luke smith was working on, payback, the sequel supposed to follow destiny 2. Bungie wanted lightfall to fail, to free up destiny players for marathon & payback was supposed to take the top 10% destiny pve players. The leaks said it was puzzle heavy, metroid like, difficulty options, raid & dungeon aesthetics & mechanics, not a typical destiny planet. This lines up with keplar,no? Puzzle heavy, metroid like,difficulty options, mechanic heavy, raid aesthetics, & explains why no public events, patrols, lost sectors, or sparrow usage, they were moving away from that stuff. Also falls into the use what you have instruction because he'd already built it before it was cancelled & he was let go. This would leave renegades being castlevania style (I think thats the word, idk what it is) & heavily forced on coop play & communication. This was the rest of the payback leak. Also explains the portal & keplar not being on the director as portal was supposed to be a new game front page which they've tacked onto D2. I'd very extremely worried about the future now & id expect big player loss this year, potentially making another year not viable as a business, especially if marathon fails. If it keeps going, I think in 2 years when they've added new things to portal, portal will become D3 lite almost, & they'll drop the base game & sell it as a standalone experience like D1 (if they get that far). Search sources youtube Jeff grubb messy mornings bungie, there's 2 with a diff guest on each. Jason schrier skill up podcast bungie, there's 1. I'll not link as I'm UK so they'll not work for money people 👍