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7/8/2025 8:40:02 PM
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Why I barely play Destiny 2 and won’t be buying EoF
I’ll keep this plain and simple.
- Bungie caters to PvE elitists, content has become more difficult and in turn alienated the casuals.
- PvP requires more maps.
- Correct me if I’m wrong but Bungie said EoF will have less content than Final Shape and yet they have the nerve to charge $100.
- Ties to my first point, Raids and Dungeons are becoming too difficult for most players.
Stats don’t lie, Destiny 2 player base has declined over the years.
Haters going to hate, go ahead and tell me to Git Gud, I don’t really care since I don’t play as much anymore. Figure I’d give Bungie some feedback since new content is releasing soon.
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1 ReplyFirst DLC I won’t buy and won’t play. Don’t even play now. It’s not difficulty that bothers me, it’s the redundancy. The same mechanics repeated over and over with time gating bosses etc. Just over it.
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4 RepliesThis is the state of things to come. The great devs that created great Destiny content have all gone. This shambles has been created by newbies who have been given a chance to show what they can do. A bit like having a 2 week trial at a new job to show bosses what you're capable of. This content has given no thought or consideration to it's 10 year loyal player base. It's an expensive experiment to totally kick out the players who once loved the game, in the hope of attracting a huge number of new players. I don't think Destiny will survive this.
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I will just play the expansion as a casual and play something else when i reach the grind part. With over 5k hours, i am considered a vet of the franchise and i'm simply at the point that an expansion with the main selling point being more difficulty options and more grind is just a sign for me to enjoy the campaign as a casual and after that, play something that i actually want to play because games are meant to be fun and something to enjoy outside of the regular work life. Not more work.
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2 RepliesFor pve Bungie is actually catering to the broad spectrum of players. World tiers should satisfy casual and elite players. PvP map request is fair for sure. The 100$ is for the full year of content which is 2 expansions and seasons. You can buy eof for 40$. The 100 tag includes extra like exotic and ornaments. Not needed. Raids being harder is a fair statement as salvations edge was crazy and especially verity encounter. Maybe they should include difficulty tiers in raids as well similar to the dungeon explore modes.
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1 ReplyEdited by DooWork96: 7/11/2025 1:33:24 AMI’m gonna need to see more content before I drop $100. Just having a hard time justifying spending $100 to re-grind armor. The icing on the cake is exotic armor pieces will max out at like 62/63 per piece (T2). PVP has been neglected for YEARS, and not really shocked by more neglect. If you wait, I’m sure edge of fate will be on sale for ~$20 in the next year to come. I believe I saw the final shape on sale for roughly $10 on the Microsoft store. May be worth holding out on until the price matches the content.
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1 Reply👆🏻THIS!
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18 Replies[quote]- Bungie caters to PvE elitists, content has become more difficult and in turn alienated the casuals.[/quote]Reading this is funny after I just got the Navigator from a matchmade Explore Prophecy run lol
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[quote]- Bungie caters to PvE elitists, content has become more difficult and in turn alienated the casuals.[/quote] The only hard raid is salvations edge. Everything else is accessible if you're willing to put 2 hours in to get taught. Thats if you are insisting in running sub optimal wall dps (Not even wallmart and using ace of spades for dps) [quote]- PvP requires more maps.[/quote] Nah agreed
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9 Replies[quote]- Bungie caters to PvE elitists, content has become more difficult and in turn alienated the casuals. [/quote] A lot of the changes in EoF are being added specifically to make the game more approachable for casuals. Through methods like the portal, more customization in difficulty, armor overhaul, and power reset. The only thing in EoF that is more for endgame players is the introduction of gear tiers as a replacement for Adept Weapons and Artifice armor. [quote]- PvP requires more maps.[/quote] Agreed. 3 per year should be the minimum. [quote]- Correct me if I’m wrong but Bungie said EoF will have less content than Final Shape and yet they have the nerve to charge $100.[/quote] Edge of Fate is $40. Edge of Fate has less content, but the $100 package has EoF, Renegades, and the 4 premium season passes. Still a little bit more expensive, but RoI was $30 (which is what the expansion size is appropriate to) which tracks relatively even with inflation. [quote]- Ties to my first point, Raids and Dungeons are becoming too difficult for most players.[/quote] Salvations Edge and Vesper are definitely hard. But Sundered is extremely easy once you get the mechanics. [quote]Stats don’t lie, Destiny 2 player base has declined over the years.[/quote] Just like every other game, and many people treated Final Shape as the end of the game. This has lead to a massive player drop off that isn’t 100% due to the game’s quality. You’re 100% allowed to have your opinion tho.
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1 ReplyEdited by THEREALLONEWOLFx: 7/9/2025 12:35:05 PMEverything they advertised from all 3 dev streams is FREE! Do not pay for this season! Call it for what it is! That ball you can turn into is not an ABILITY it's a MECHANIC and can only be done on Kepler! Dont waste your money! Bungie is trying to bottleneck you into this Expansion by making everything obsolete or turning it into a legacy version because even they know there isn't much to EOF DLC.
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1 ReplyHaha yeah I don’t play much anymore myself just decided to open this app but it’s the same issue I cbf doing 30 star jumps while dodging lasers, landing on puzzles while juggling dynamite Just let me kill -blam!- with my guns. The puzzles are -blam!- However I’ll give them props for removing light level in trials. The amount of pvp players I know that enjoying dipping into the weekend for a card is up there Sadly too little too late most have left for good
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3 RepliesEdited by CORPERATE COMMANDER: 7/8/2025 11:47:03 PMYep games just too unrewarding and boring for the time bungie wants you to sink into playing difficult content ,yes endgame has been catered to elites which has pushed out even the above average previous raiders, master dungeons and gm runners. Most of the game requires a tutorial on a seperate site to bother accessing unless you have 5 more freinds addicted to 1 game or atleast play the same hours as you Takes over a 100 clears for some people just to get an exotic, eof is a giant money grab for minimum content at a premium price
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1 ReplyHonestly, the mechanics of the last few dungeons have all been pretty fun/interesting. Its the non stop spawning of ads i cant stand. I kill 2, 9 more spawn to replace them. The bosses are (mostly) fine. Nothing that's an unyielding bullet sponge. But the infinite spawning of ads is not fun. Doesnt even have to be a lot of time in between waves. Just give me 4-5 seconds of down time before I'm inundated with another wave of 25 enemies.
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5 RepliesEoF is 40$, the 100$ one is for everything post EoF this year.
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2 RepliesEdited by ben: 7/10/2025 5:16:55 AMI dont agree that the game caters to pve elitists at all. I agree that the floor of lowest difficulty activities has raised to an unneccesary level, but no one asked for this. The hardcore pve crowd wants optional difficulty and challenges, not normal raids at -5. The game is definitely easier now than it has been in the past in terms of the sandbox. The power fantasy is stronger than ever with our abilities, with every class having multiple avenues to extremely strong builds that steamroll the hardest combat challenges in the game. But the mechanics of course have gotten harder, with the recent dungeons and most recent raid, and I recognize that this alienates the casual player. My hope is that the explore mode experiment sticks around. It would be a huge blunder if not because it could get casual players back in to raids and dungeons. And as much as I enjoy salvations edge and vespers host for the way I play, they are too hard for casuals.
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5 RepliesEdited by Jatmahl: 7/9/2025 6:58:57 PMDungeons used to be fun now they are slogs trying to carry people who don't know what to do. Would love to farm Sundered and Vespers but they take too long with casual players. Are you asking why I don't make a fireteam with experienced players? It's a damn dungeon not a raid.
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5 RepliesFor starters, EoF isn't $100. It's 40. 100 is the entire year of content, plus extras. I'm not glazing bungie or this dlc, but lets stop bullshítting our way around posted, concrete facts.
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3 Repliesit’s $100 USD for the deluxe edition that comes with BOTH edge of fate and renegades. it’s $40 USD for just base edge of fate
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1 ReplyKeep us posted.
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1 ReplyCool story.
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[quote]I like my community like my glasses: POLARIZED![/quote] -Pete Parsons (probably)
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1 ReplyDestiny "establishment" influencers don't want things to change. How does one convince a person who holds a "it's the world who is wrong, not me" viewpoint?
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I 100% respect your right to post your feelings and feedback. I'm feeling bad this was your experience with Destiny 2. I, like you am a casual player. I"m not very good, some raids I could do, others I was not ready for. But I see the "growth path" that I need to take to get there. I do think however, perhaps you just haven't played with the right people? There are many layers to the game and you don't have to master all of them to do dungeons and raids. I would not tell you to Git Gud, but if you like the game, and you want to see more of the content, spend some time looking for the right group of people. There are a lot of guilds recruiting, surely one of them could help you do some of this content and help you move from the way you're feeling now to feeling like Destiny 2 is more fun. Half the fun (in my opinion) is the memories you make with others. Good luck out there!
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Edited by Icy Hot Todoroki: 7/9/2025 9:32:33 PMThis must be a generational thing. The game is definitely not catering towards "pve elitist" since the game is nowhere near as grindy as it was before, nor is it in anyway "difficult". Bungie has artificially increased difficulty by adding minor inconveniences like champions and banes, or constantly nerfing weapons for the sake of it. But all in all, the game hasn't alienated casuals because the game wasn't meant for them - if anything, Free to Play ruined the game for everybody by making things that we normally had to earn extremely easy to get. What Bungie has done is alienate those that are lazy and want everything free and up front. If you don't want to play, good for you. One less fairweather player isn't going to break the bank. It's rather pointless to make a post about it but good for you
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EoF is $40
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Edited by iKARUS: 7/9/2025 7:18:01 PMBeen a free player since the last vex season they also just gave us this seasons content for free it seems o.o cuz I just randomly got the premium tier loot from the "act" gifts so 🤷🏼 might be worth just grabbing those for utility sake. This game isn't bad it's just not worth hours and hours of your day anymore.(To be fair in retrospect it really hasn't been lol)
