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Ban Input Alternating Device users.

Title ^ Why? -Manipulates matchmaking. eg. Game thinks they are on Controller > matches against controller. Isn't matchmaking manip against terms of service? -Added aim assist. eg. Game thinks they are on controller adds aim assist. They are on MnK with aim assist. -Anti - recoil & additional aim assist scripts. Nuff said. How long are going to let them ruin pvp (console, especially comp and trials) ? Start banning. Undetectable you argue? BS. Add 'Input Manipulation' as an option under cheating in reporting system, and we'll point em' out to you. all you need to do is review. Most don't even try hiding it, they'll spin around like 'over 20 sense fast' as celebration after they kill you. Remember the only reason I take time to do this is because I love n care and want this game to prosper.

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  • This would be great, but I don't see them doing anything about it. They can't even stop cheaters on pc abusing cheats during trials. Reporting does nothing to stop these people

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  • commented pretty much the same thing the other day and got my post removed. apparantley just criticsm of bungies failure to tackle this isnt popular with the jerks who run this forum.

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    • Comp is just gambling at this point

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    • And if you're unfortunate enough to be in OCE, it's full of cheats. Brand new accounts, nothing master worked or even modded and topping KDs. Sick of wasting my time reporting them. Quality control is seriously lacking in every department at Bungie.

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      • That would be OVER DELIVERING, plus if they’re not mean in chat it doesn’t matter for Bungie because cheaters lives matter too 😌

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      • This has been going on for years and years ...of all games fortnite 5 years ago could detect if you were on mnk.on console and put you into a PC lobby..

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        • Ban you

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          • [quote]Title ^ Why? -Manipulates matchmaking. eg. Game thinks they are on Controller > matches against controller. Isn't matchmaking manip against terms of service? -Added aim assist. eg. Game thinks they are on controller adds aim assist. They are on MnK with aim assist. -Anti - recoil & additional aim assist scripts. Nuff said. How long are going to let them ruin pvp (console, especially comp and trials) ? Start banning. Undetectable you argue? BS. Add 'Input Manipulation' as an option under cheating in reporting system, and we'll point em' out to you. all you need to do is review. Most don't even try hiding it, they'll spin around like 'over 20 sense fast' as celebration after they kill you. Remember the only reason I take time to do this is because I love n care and want this game to prosper.[/quote] Common sense take. Unfortunately the people that tell the talented devs what to do are brain dead talentless hacks... will never happen....sad really.

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            There isn't input based matchmaking? Also controller is probably the better input right now for the vast majority of payers, I do play both on PC. Third party devices are the biggest problem in PVP right now, there's way more people using them than hacking. Unfortunately they haven't bothered to do anything about it since the game came out, I wouldn't expect them to at this stage.

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            • And yet some people still believe that in PvP current state, if you work hard enough, you’ll get better.

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              • Ok so this sadly, aside from players reporting genuinely will require Microsoft and Sony to actually implement OS level detection and tools for devs to use. I know Microsoft commented on the matter like 4 or 5 years ago themselves, I'd need to find it again. Bungie is absolutely inept but this is definitely outside of their control past user reports. Microsoft (Xbox/PC) and Sony (PS) are going to need to keep a catalog of device IDs that actually make X device function in the OS and provide the IDs to devs/anti-cheats and maintain the list so they can give the ability to auto warn and auto disable the offending hardware. Sadly, this will never happen. A quick look will show on Microsoft's own forums that they officially do not care. They are more than happy to allow all input changing devices to continue to exist on all titles on their console despite thousands of people every year for the past nearly decade asking for them to do something. The reasoning given is 1, its up to the devs (which many have said they can't do it and 100% makes sense, they'd need serious OS access to do anything) and 2, the devices ride the line of a "legitimate ID and therefore Microsoft won't risk banning legitamite devices which is 1000% BS. Hopefully this helps, this is a fight I tried fighting years ago while still on console. Nobody cares, the current culture is ok with cheaters at a fundamental level sadly.

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              • I absolutely agree and I think everyone else does too, but it isn't matchmaking manipulation. You will play others based off the platform you are not, not by the input device you are on. One problem with adding a report button for 3rd party devices is that destiny players are notoriously -blam!- at determining if someone is cheating. It's really, REALLY hard to tell if someone is using a device, especially if they are much better than you. I have been messaged 50+ times calling me a device user, I use a stock Ps5 controller and don't claw at all. I use basically default controls. Every time without fail it's against someone much worse than me that I beat in trials. I can only imagine how much more this happens to players better than myself, and it wouldn't be for to add a button to let people report players that they have no idea are playing completely legit.

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                • This is wrong only because it doesn’t work that way but I get what you’re saying although. If you’re good at the game it shouldn’t matter if they’re MnK or Controller

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                  • I’m a bit ignorant of this, but what are the signs this is happening? Like when the players body contorts in a weird and rapid way, that you can’t replicate on a controller? Looks more like a mouse throw? I just assume I’m trash in pvp because I’m old and slow now.

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                    • requires too much time and effort

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                    • Sadly, I don’t think they ever will. I’d say it’s due to a low player pop to keep active user metrics up but the truth is, this has been a problem for Bungie since D1. Players openly abuse devices and offer their “configs” for cash while bragging they’ve been on the same account since y1. I’ve talked to several users of various devices and at most they or someone they know has only ever received a timeout, which is typically due to poor connections. Sure, these players aren’t invincible but it’s a definite unfair advantage that drastically inflates the player’s performance. I’d love to share some Bungie IDs for proof but Bungie considers “name and shame” more egregious than cheating.

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                    • Edited by Hendo: 5/20/2025 1:13:08 PM
                      With the matchmaking manipulation you talk about console is console no matter what and if they’re using a MnK it isn’t that huge of a deal. I’d be more concerned about how they butchered NLB 😭 this sniper sandbox is so unforgiving with that sniper

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