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5/14/2025 1:41:26 PM
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Do Destiny 1 and Destiny 2 take place in a timeline where everything went right?
Well, I recently replayed Destiny 2 Beyond Light and Destiny 1.
And I just realized that the Exo Stranger comes from an alternate timeline, meaning the original one. She comes from there and says everything went wrong. She said the Guardians were seduced by the darkness, that she killed her sister, that it was a loop, etc.
(She mentioned other things, but I think it was like that.)
The point is, after waking up in the first Destiny, everything turned out differently. Why did the Stranger manage to change the timeline, or well, the timeline of Destiny 1 and 2?
So... Destiny 1 and 2 take place in an alternate timeline where everything went well? Or not?
Can you answer that question for me?
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She comes from our timeline. There is a single primary timeline that she loops through iterations of, almost literally like resetting to a checkpoint and trying again. It’s the same timeline, you just reset time back to an earlier point to try again. There are completely separate timelines, the alternative what-ifs that branch from ours, but Elsie is looping the primary. Over and over and over. She’s then able to affect things differently, see what works, what doesn’t and even explore/prepare for the next loop. Saint being saved when he was younger by our guardian helps prove it. Cause lore about the dark futures shows we can go bad or die as early as base D1. So it had to have happened in the same original iteration for to be cemented in, ya see? She goes back to a point long before we are revived yet it happened, despite the future becoming uncertain due to her intervention. It happened in the original iteration. It’s also why Elsie can only go so far back, she could derail things that need to happen in ways she doesn’t know or couldn’t replicate with intervention. I got a visual for you. Think of time like a moving stream of water, and events in time are rocks that guide its path. If you go back too far and move a rock, the stream won’t line up with the rest ahead of it and those events don’t happen. And you can see it in what she doesn’t do. Despite the threat Eris poses in those futures, a somewhat corrupted Eris was needed to win. She had to suffer on the moon, to be put on the edge of corruption, to learn what she needed to help us. We had to be there to reel her back and keep her stable. So Elsie couldn’t interfere, even though her loop goes far back enough to intervene. She had to keep that major risk in play. Some stones can be moved, some can’t. If you have any questions lemme know.
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2 RepliesThat's the idea introduced to us in Beyond Light. In past timelines that Elsie Bray experienced, we were corrupted by Darkness and the Traveler left Humanity. She has gone through countless iterations trying to find the right path forward, and it led to us destroying the Black Heart in Destiny 1, because the Black Heart was responsible for the corruption of Guardians, including the player Guardian, in previous timelines. What is still a mystery is what caused Elsie Bray to experience her time loops. The fact that we are entering the Fate Saga, and they discussed the extradimensional nature of the Nine and how that allows them to interact with reality in a very different way in the Reveal Event, including powers over time, implies the Nine could be responsible for Elsie Bray's situation, creating the time-loop to preserve life in Sol until they find a timeline where the Sol System is preserved and we defeat the Witness.
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It is kind of nice to think that this is the timeline where we can make things right.
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No, I don't think so... though not in-game yet... I think we're in an Endless Night, 'Dark Future' timeline.
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Yeah, most of the other timelines we were ether killed or corrupted by the darkness
